WEBVTT NOTE Podcast: Newz of the World Episode: NEWZ089 Torches and pitchforks Publishing Date: 2020-08-27T16:23:20+02:00 Podcast URL: https://newz-of-the-world.com Episode URL: https://newz-of-the-world.com/newz089-torches-and-pitchforks/ 00:00:14.476 --> 00:00:23.837 Hello jocelyn you thought it will never come again we're back this is news of the world and we thought 00:00:23.754 --> 00:00:37.105 after four years of higher to the time to talk to the world once more notches me my friend mark. 00:00:37.070 --> 00:00:45.125 Hello what's the what's the word for so you have podcast that are weekly your podcast that are monthly what's the word for a podcast this four year li. 00:00:44.875 --> 00:00:46.810 Olympic. 00:00:45.707 --> 00:00:49.538 For tally hall limpid. 00:00:47.916 --> 00:00:50.830 Add big podcast. 00:00:50.530 --> 00:00:56.034 Welcome to the olympic released podcast. 00:00:55.746 --> 00:01:00.342 Yes we will we made it to the olive finally. 00:01:00.908 --> 00:01:12.228 Yeah no looking back i mean we used to do this on a weekday basis that turned out to be no longer possible after seven time. 00:01:12.547 --> 00:01:19.974 Put the show tourist extra show four years ago. 00:01:20.257 --> 00:01:21.380 Yes. 00:01:21.152 --> 00:01:36.012 Which is both funny edwards looking back at first because it was recorded on this was posted on the twenty first of december two thousand sixteen looking back at a year. 00:01:36.355 --> 00:01:39.936 Add the disaster the address of two thousand sixteen. 00:01:40.369 --> 00:01:42.784 I called two thousand sixteen a disaster. 00:01:42.526 --> 00:01:45.715 Yes it was. 00:01:45.615 --> 00:01:46.907 Yeah. 00:01:46.807 --> 00:01:54.833 It was just didn't know how it is kind of disaster with compared to the the following yes. 00:01:55.097 --> 00:02:09.807 I mean that is a thing if you have these things documented and people who have kept blogs or just even if diary at home notice sometimes when i look back and see a moment and it says like this is the worst this is the time and then. 00:02:10.174 --> 00:02:16.279 You look at your life now you see me yourself again jotting notes like this is the worst so. 00:02:16.538 --> 00:02:20.425 It was the worst of times it was the worst of times. 00:02:20.233 --> 00:02:26.470 Yes elizabeth been a hard time for optimists like me. 00:02:25.185 --> 00:02:29.295 Yeah i'm fine pessimist so. 00:02:29.535 --> 00:02:38.831 I started i started this year were coming everybody to the golden age. 00:02:35.989 --> 00:02:40.850 Did referring to the color of a certain leader's. 00:02:40.550 --> 00:02:43.710 Twenty is the roaring twenty s enough. 00:02:43.410 --> 00:02:44.876 Yes. 00:02:44.576 --> 00:02:47.965 Pause everything so 00:02:47.869 --> 00:03:00.944 yeah i'm still a having a haven't lost hope yet all those things have gotten quite complicated especially the us vs the world looking back at the title 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:10.643 because we were referring to barack obama in this wonderful what's the president i think. 00:03:10.890 --> 00:03:12.991 The last one that got happened. 00:03:12.741 --> 00:03:14.339 Delete the last what happened. 00:03:14.089 --> 00:03:15.540 Whitehouse correspondents dinner. 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:24.422 There any entered and the music was playing the song you're gonna miss me when i'm gone. 00:03:24.687 --> 00:03:25.852 Yes. 00:03:25.552 --> 00:03:33.676 That's what i look everybody in love of course i remove checking in using funny and then he said. 00:03:34.487 --> 00:03:39.845 You can't say it but you know it's true. 00:03:37.726 --> 00:03:40.346 Yep. 00:03:40.132 --> 00:03:49.077 Yes couldn't tell been more inside for correct then then this year we really miss him. 00:03:49.504 --> 00:03:51.403 Yes 00:03:51.367 --> 00:04:02.856 yes everybody you're so many moments but yet the end of the obama presidency i mean he said it but many people were saying over gonna certainly miss this president 00:04:02.712 --> 00:04:11.263 weather for the way he is with words and with people or a policies possible and yeah there we are 00:04:11.125 --> 00:04:14.688 almost four years four years later and, 00:04:14.724 --> 00:04:27.703 many people more more than before probably stay live way back they had kate mccannon. 00:04:28.052 --> 00:04:32.487 I don't know that works well in germany but in the i've always been joyed her angela merkel, 00:04:32.529 --> 00:04:45.508 end sheets she will be loved letters barraca it with this idea that miracle love is obama and she's also gonna miss him like crazy and end hear that world where you know, 00:04:45.515 --> 00:04:53.675 miracle and barak do not get to hang out decisions together so it's just miracle and i guess macaroni, 00:04:53.765 --> 00:04:55.766 dear friend that's just not the same as it. 00:04:55.604 --> 00:05:05.290 It's not the same and there's a lot of good friends in general. 00:05:05.988 --> 00:05:10.011 The statue of of of stupidities. 00:05:07.874 --> 00:05:10.554 Yes. 00:05:10.304 --> 00:05:16.527 Everybody including germany some how are you know. 00:05:16.918 --> 00:05:27.259 If it's your country and the afters inside full view of dinozaurs and international politics but also our nation, 00:05:27.272 --> 00:05:34.128 itself behaves and excision it's it's a different story but it's, 00:05:34.320 --> 00:05:44.427 of course if you compare to the rest of not so many liters in the free world around the world in general that really are, 00:05:44.602 --> 00:05:53.411 making a difference and over lasting impact on sings i mean what's good about her instead. 00:05:54.180 --> 00:05:58.579 Call the usually too late and usually. 00:05:59.012 --> 00:06:09.833 No never enough is progressive percentage mean would like to she knows when the time has come for something to change. 00:06:10.231 --> 00:06:18.306 Increase stand this multiple times now it for the general public. 00:06:18.775 --> 00:06:27.542 Out of nowhere but then she's making the point for instance turn around on. 00:06:27.945 --> 00:06:34.320 Nuclear plants in germany after the fukushima disaster. 00:06:35.264 --> 00:06:40.456 She said like ok i thought about it we are stopping this. 00:06:40.787 --> 00:06:50.599 No when was decision on that day and everybody new no more discussions that that's it or, 00:06:50.744 --> 00:07:03.825 marriage was also twenty point party was really really know when was extending this into forever, 00:07:03.861 --> 00:07:11.751 the weather point timer should just dropped just asking the interview about this. 00:07:12.058 --> 00:07:22.567 End all season was something don't recall something like that you know that should be done something. 00:07:23.018 --> 00:07:30.860 Everybody new life okay that's enough so so she's been. 00:07:31.395 --> 00:07:40.078 Particularly good at this this big turnarounds and anna wise obvious that once she had made up her mind, 00:07:40.331 --> 00:07:51.633 the party could really do anything against her to follow because she was capable of keeping the power in her party it away nobody expected before. 00:07:52.361 --> 00:08:00.280 Is actually also like from outsider because like you said if you know the democratic situation that you don't necessarily 00:08:00.257 --> 00:08:09.805 share for her depending on your your politics on your your goals but internationally 00:08:09.661 --> 00:08:16.907 in recent history there not many political leaders leaders of a country that are seen as what i would call almost a political, 00:08:16.998 --> 00:08:24.413 like international scene people don't think about angela merkel as conservative or progressive. 00:08:24.744 --> 00:08:31.503 I would say i just think of us stable rational end that doesn't happen very often 00:08:31.474 --> 00:08:40.325 not the case you don't see it that way understand but this very few i think that our world war internet the way we discuss things makes it very difficult even 00:08:40.187 --> 00:08:43.588 get popular by not being 00:08:43.408 --> 00:09:01.212 very obviously a conservative or or progressive insurance situations mayers more famous for this like you have a mayor of a city and you may not know in the us they dont even have political party sometimes so it look for signs maybe otherwise their just this 00:09:01.026 --> 00:09:04.349 figures that could go left could go right could go middle, 00:09:04.578 --> 00:09:11.295 what are some health stable trustworthy maybe churchill even had this i was forget what party he was from, 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:14.654 because it was the church hill time and of course i wasn't around anyway. 00:09:15.070 --> 00:09:24.563 What is very rare have an figure that is seen as just stabled first before whatever party their from. 00:09:24.263 --> 00:09:31.372 I mean it helps wendell around when fixings happen that i'm not correct attributed so. 00:09:31.991 --> 00:09:38.787 Maybe she's definitely going to be remembered as one of the big. 00:09:39.328 --> 00:09:49.783 Politicians time no doubt about this because sixteen years in a row. 00:09:48.895 --> 00:09:58.334 Yeah that's that help but it doesn't work for example for bush something big 00:09:58.221 --> 00:10:01.087 he made is mark as a sort of 00:10:00.961 --> 00:10:10.136 i'm gonna be extra tough and it within my top news lot of harsh policies last of phyno he just not seen nine political figure 00:10:10.004 --> 00:10:16.350 those people now within the us who will look back because of who's president now and how 00:10:16.308 --> 00:10:26.120 this person is president look back at busch pretty good which is of course rewriting history is always pretty good i would say, 00:10:26.127 --> 00:10:28.428 but now. 00:10:29.666 --> 00:10:34.803 So maybe we should i wait wait. 00:10:33.800 --> 00:10:35.765 Go to the giant elephant. 00:10:35.501 --> 00:10:48.696 Set it will there actually there the family of elephante in detroit and after has been looking at all topic list of the last show and, 00:10:48.883 --> 00:10:50.926 one of those was brexit. 00:10:51.834 --> 00:11:06.459 Turn and that's actually something that can be very busy as you are audiomachine and last afternoon a podcast series on on brexit for a long time at which is the kind of still going so it's like, 00:11:06.496 --> 00:11:15.112 every three months or so i am doing an update on what has happened so far what's about to happen. 00:11:15.660 --> 00:11:24.318 Find now that the actual brexit technically has taken place. 00:11:24.926 --> 00:11:26.475 We all know. 00:11:26.909 --> 00:11:35.038 No nobody knows where this is going actually it's like you politics it's getting really getting worse all the time, 00:11:35.243 --> 00:11:46.654 but it has an interesting impact on on on me as you know you know it's finally for me to get the drama nationality. 00:11:46.588 --> 00:11:48.853 Yes. 00:11:48.583 --> 00:11:51.521 Which to those who, 00:11:51.576 --> 00:12:06.051 i don't know i mean i have been an on paypal i've been britt on my left because my father was breakbot died early so i drop in germany germany but just not on paper so now i'm finally. 00:12:06.430 --> 00:12:12.517 Zoom in on paper which is quite helpful about that the uk has left europe, 00:12:12.620 --> 00:12:21.921 is left i mean has left the you know i'm not sure about leave europe i don't think so song. 00:12:21.621 --> 00:12:28.129 Put a bunch of sticks really long polls and start pushing further and further away physically. 00:12:27.901 --> 00:12:33.440 Yeah but there's also scotland with that feat duke ocean and petaling the other directions to. 00:12:33.783 --> 00:12:42.568 It's not going to happen how soon as they think they are and especially look at us situation 00:12:42.557 --> 00:12:47.183 are there i think they're having dependent on what's going on in the us and if there's a train 00:12:47.082 --> 00:13:00.692 for turn around that's probably going to healthy brick city because just stupid and incapable of doing governments in the us right now. 00:13:00.981 --> 00:13:08.876 But mentioning is it interesting to see what the impact of brexit on the rest of europe was. 00:13:08.973 --> 00:13:11.929 Yeah. 00:13:12.001 --> 00:13:15.198 I mean uk so who expected, 00:13:15.426 --> 00:13:23.712 i don't know what day expected but the hell that they have this view like the us this somehow the world is, 00:13:23.713 --> 00:13:26.344 is it center around london 00:13:26.285 --> 00:13:41.012 depends on some kind of gravitation force that everybody has to hear too and of course that didn't happen and use bazzi vs 00:13:41.007 --> 00:13:45.165 moving on an internet doing pretty grades instead. 00:13:45.237 --> 00:13:54.539 Yeah that's interesting comparison with us over the last four years but for the uk i guess the last 00:13:54.515 --> 00:14:04.820 will it ever since the referendum i think that there is the general spirit doesn't always come out or it's not always possible but we're going to gallant now, 00:14:04.941 --> 00:14:14.171 like we don't like the decision we don't like what you chosen but as the rest of the world or in this case is the rest of europe what now going to 00:14:14.099 --> 00:14:27.547 move forward differently than we used to we're not gonna look to you whether you're the uk the us were just not gonna look to you for leadership for good ideas you're not gonna participate in whatever were doing, 00:14:27.667 --> 00:14:37.185 end it's adam sure there's many moments where that makes things more difficult perhaps love the same time it's just a continuous right continue. 00:14:37.594 --> 00:14:43.843 What else could you do to help you and jeremih, 00:14:43.892 --> 00:14:54.485 before brexit the relationship of your opinions are you members or like the people in you country is what's the use somehow. 00:14:55.105 --> 00:15:02.676 Will it says reserve in all is like yeah exists i don't really see a particular reason, 00:15:02.839 --> 00:15:14.135 why i should supported your everything fox on the run nation and the us senator birocratic level that nobody really needs i think. 00:15:14.418 --> 00:15:22.536 The brexit face have some house shawn that it's it's more than that is much more than that. 00:15:22.861 --> 00:15:27.139 Turn that yaz given the choice people are. 00:15:27.980 --> 00:15:38.959 Definitely rooting for this corporation and security that the us provided for such a long time and at the end of this year when, 00:15:39.109 --> 00:15:50.400 the uk is molesta going into no deal situation weather don't really have anything no defined relationship to the which is going to. 00:15:51.428 --> 00:15:53.062 Both and trouble. 00:15:53.417 --> 00:16:04.076 Just just the trouble with us getting into the pretty much prepared for it and date it already in the box and some hall, 00:16:04.227 --> 00:16:13.276 ok you later in an indian no what's coming i still have this feeling with the uk doesn't really know what's happening this summer. 00:16:13.583 --> 00:16:18.829 Things that will be some kind of magic on everybody's turning two thousand, 00:16:18.961 --> 00:16:29.459 sorry yeah yes you did he is your special relationship is everything you wanted for free without you having to pay for it and that's just not happening. 00:16:29.718 --> 00:16:36.405 No we do not know how this is going to work out i mean we can predicted many will and we see the, 00:16:36.436 --> 00:16:44.974 problems but will this be a case of you gonna miss us when we're gone. 00:16:45.239 --> 00:16:47.011 Maybe it's too soon i think. 00:16:46.783 --> 00:16:49.769 Who who's missing who. 00:16:49.710 --> 00:16:56.998 The uk is going to miss europe physical when they're gone from here. 00:16:56.776 --> 00:17:05.261 I think there will because once they realize what they have lost which they still don't really, 00:17:05.454 --> 00:17:07.232 weather right now 00:17:07.196 --> 00:17:21.299 the acceptance is there and it's all the details it's not over need traded n money and opportunity and freedom of movement still celebrating, 00:17:21.420 --> 00:17:30.974 taking away the freedom of movement and foxing on freedom of movement of other people not realizing the basically taking, 00:17:31.082 --> 00:17:42.776 away their own freedom of movement which is so upset and one stay notice that even going on holidays going to be a problem. 00:17:43.828 --> 00:17:53.652 The things will start changing so it will take sometime and big thief with you ak is that. 00:17:54.175 --> 00:17:57.972 Is this whole craziness. 00:17:58.634 --> 00:18:10.015 Which way are going to talk about in detail not this whole crazy especially the hole british craziness some harry gets more oxygen two continue. 00:18:10.418 --> 00:18:14.774 By whatever events. 00:18:16.156 --> 00:18:23.289 When you have the problem that you have a country that has summer cat all the ties to everybody, 00:18:23.487 --> 00:18:32.362 you're the closest neighbors the closest l a 's finest summer pro to influence of money and political influence from 00:18:32.339 --> 00:18:42.668 what other countries we've already seen it has been documented like the influence of russian doll vegas on on the tory party others documents have been coming out, 00:18:42.722 --> 00:18:45.144 add bennett, 00:18:45.348 --> 00:19:00.208 can quickly turn into some kind of drug state that doesn't seem to be under control by anything any longer also it has to deal with the the panic they are causing for so many people problems like. 00:19:00.828 --> 00:19:09.534 Getting food and devaluation of money and answer on in addition to all the freedom that have been taken away that. 00:19:09.841 --> 00:19:18.188 Set dennis very complicated to deal with uk any any longer cause they are not obliged to confirm to any rules. 00:19:18.711 --> 00:19:25.879 End the one step left turn on happy with and then they start pointing to everybody else being the animals. 00:19:26.294 --> 00:19:29.773 Which day already do some how about that, 00:19:29.810 --> 00:19:39.598 yes that's potential scales this app significantly you know that everybody is just against the uk, 00:19:39.749 --> 00:19:49.585 which is natural mystic we don't care like your problem but that's going to 00:19:49.495 --> 00:19:51.856 put it out into the public 00:19:51.677 --> 00:20:01.098 just to make the public believe that it's the same story of divided conquer all over again. 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:05.593 It's always worked it seems to continue to work i mean it if we look east 00:20:05.557 --> 00:20:17.040 that is also the dialogue weather is hungry or belarus i know there's a slightly different situations but in ider case you have a leader telling stories that involved we are 00:20:16.957 --> 00:20:20.267 under attack in hungary it's working the attack by the iu or 00:20:20.244 --> 00:20:30.236 hey portal soros in bellevue cinco de mayo is borders about to invade so it's always story of 00:20:30.147 --> 00:20:40.590 not just the volume people but make people afraid someone is coming someone is going to take what you have i have a lot of experience in in russia as a visitor 00:20:40.494 --> 00:20:45.061 turn a list that story they never stop telling it, 00:20:45.217 --> 00:20:59.518 even now in twenty twenty you know the the outside world including the west especially they wanna take whenever i special life and culture russia has these kinds of stories still work. 00:21:00.120 --> 00:21:14.800 Yes to selena funny cartoon that summer repeating this way the king looking down at the people in the wearing pitchforks and torches in and, 00:21:15.022 --> 00:21:22.437 device is talking to the kingsmen yeah is it. 00:21:23.297 --> 00:21:30.706 You don't need to find them you just need to convince the pitchfork people that the touch people want to take away their picture fox. 00:21:31.758 --> 00:21:33.157 Yes. 00:21:33.560 --> 00:21:48.456 Add this really makes the point prettymuch well on this arthur terran leaders taking the games i just divide them and make them afraid of each other and, 00:21:48.505 --> 00:21:50.704 like trump is doing it. 00:21:51.233 --> 00:21:59.621 If these protesters there a mix of terrorists or paid agitators provocateur popular one, 00:21:59.796 --> 00:22:04.729 everyone's provocateur that isn't in favor of the government, 00:22:04.807 --> 00:22:18.994 so yeah these things even know where such in advance society in twenty twenty we still have them everywhere you look their someone trying to push this idea with some success. 00:22:19.367 --> 00:22:21.043 That is not ended. 00:22:21.927 --> 00:22:24.725 Set the us. 00:22:24.728 --> 00:22:26.584 Haha. 00:22:26.963 --> 00:22:36.342 Yes it's a well it country with the almost love four hundred million people i think currently has among other things a year, 00:22:36.397 --> 00:22:44.953 president on his head overweight his third wife, 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:50.284 kids i think we're all in charge of something. 00:22:50.579 --> 00:22:55.920 Any is currently running for reelection. 00:22:55.626 --> 00:23:04.663 Set a this is chopin three hundred twenty eight million people in the us it's not yeah. 00:23:01.293 --> 00:23:11.400 I overshadowed you're doing a sense right now but also trying to ruin the sentence so will never know the truth about how many people live in the country. 00:23:11.106 --> 00:23:14.068 Yes nobody cares about the truth anymore. 00:23:14.158 --> 00:23:22.925 No not even counting people i mean it's always been political i should say counting people has become political but it's it's now like 00:23:22.865 --> 00:23:26.572 they actively want to destroy this process, 00:23:26.633 --> 00:23:36.073 put it up there on the list with the post office and all the other things that you don't want help or you don't wanna fuck you wanted destroy them stop them, 00:23:36.326 --> 00:23:45.531 so yes the us i forgot what the numbers are with corona know that dead sara above one hundred and fifty thousand that's probably 00:23:45.429 --> 00:23:52.922 create a conservative number at this point from coronavirus and then the actual number of infected is in the millions 00:23:52.857 --> 00:24:06.731 you have the sinner was a spike maybe it continues in the state where there was no other work very few infections for five months ago were there was big pressure open 00:24:06.557 --> 00:24:13.125 invite open i mean business open have your schools open which is happening now, 00:24:13.239 --> 00:24:21.195 yes we speak or in within a week my brother and sister in law work in schools and they have to go back to work. 00:24:20.973 --> 00:24:34.589 The number of infections in the us per million people at the best time in the so cold downtown was worse than in the netherlands orange dream. 00:24:34.818 --> 00:24:36.722 Sure. 00:24:35.299 --> 00:24:39.997 So thats the way of seeing like it turn around. 00:24:40.316 --> 00:24:48.524 Yep people in charge the person in charge suddenly will say yeah could've been worse and their for we didn't well. 00:24:48.266 --> 00:24:51.222 It is what it is. 00:24:51.180 --> 00:24:54.269 Yeah i know if you saw that axwell interview, 00:24:54.401 --> 00:25:04.430 another the bad lip reading also which is very good with the actual interview but the journalist who sings australia i wanna say 00:25:04.226 --> 00:25:11.978 he he asked them straight out says you're very into a positive thinking mr president do you think that's sometimes been bad 00:25:11.900 --> 00:25:16.436 during this pandemic it was interesting cause it was he was pushing. 00:25:16.755 --> 00:25:24.867 Trump's own behavior like really into positive thinking i get it but do you think it's always good and trumps i can you gotta be positive thinking, 00:25:24.916 --> 00:25:30.341 could much worse and he really doesn't want to like the positives the positive, 00:25:30.408 --> 00:25:37.660 so that's enough in the country list from the leadership that's the focus yes, 00:25:37.727 --> 00:25:47.185 tim can bring lots of terrible stats about what's happening in the us cause its bad but the leadership can point out to a lot of other things that could have happened. 00:25:47.642 --> 00:25:48.495 I didn't. 00:25:49.114 --> 00:25:55.495 Jonathan swan is the the name is actually australian which for help. 00:25:55.303 --> 00:26:06.630 Yes and he's been he had a credit station following trump's since the beginning of this campaign to become president i think i listen to the presidency so that's also good 00:26:06.528 --> 00:26:18.919 because i mean it must be very stressful to be a journalist trying to stick with this president because you can be kicked out you can be accused of things sometimes when you least expected sometimes you know 00:26:18.847 --> 00:26:26.832 you know what it doesn't like this journalist in this interview i hate watching likes watching a trump interview at this point the used to be funny. 00:26:27.188 --> 00:26:28.984 What is not funny anymore, 00:26:29.219 --> 00:26:39.133 but put this one i would say watch the first four minutes after that you be too sick to continue because he tries he released. 00:26:40.203 --> 00:26:41.399 Trump of one. 00:26:41.099 --> 00:26:44.223 Rosie trump doesn't trump, 00:26:44.325 --> 00:26:56.872 hey portal bring lots of papers with charts any hands them two and them eat have bar graphs on them and then yes yes that works really well for the bad lip reading also these papers pictures 00:26:56.860 --> 00:27:01.475 so the journalist does push him, 00:27:01.638 --> 00:27:14.262 more on est and you know kind of says like i get it you're doing a good job he really brings out all of trumps things that i want people to recognized before he asks difficult question which is, 00:27:14.383 --> 00:27:29.092 i would say a good strategy like you have to ignore this man everyone will say it was like a child find give the child a little bit of what they want so that then you can ask why can't you want and he he doesn't interesting. 00:27:29.411 --> 00:27:38.178 For a bit so yeah because it's latest it's actually conference, 00:27:38.317 --> 00:27:45.251 interesting way as far as i can see i could get to the end trump doesn't walk away stick with it, 00:27:45.504 --> 00:27:50.545 end the journalist doesn't really back down but of course it doesn't matter to get much. 00:27:51.399 --> 00:28:02.918 Give me was an interesting way of exposing his weaknesses without trump even noticing it because they would probably went away. 00:28:03.255 --> 00:28:09.840 Yeah trumpet many times will say in his word read the cause their asking about, 00:28:09.912 --> 00:28:18.030 how how does he know that it could've been so much worse or based on what he says weather manuals and books you can read them. 00:28:18.349 --> 00:28:23.841 End the all say that i could be much worse and tha realist interrupt city has what 00:28:23.818 --> 00:28:33.413 which manuals which books any trump tries to explain a little it doesn't name any specific books really. 00:28:33.113 --> 00:28:34.736 Never dies. 00:28:34.496 --> 00:28:40.528 I like there a manual somewhere on coronavirus that say the us government did really well. 00:28:40.649 --> 00:28:44.212 Instructions. 00:28:44.344 --> 00:28:54.379 Yeah in the background we have anthony for rachel house still beating keep this job gucci sad through many presidents as the head of what the cdc no, 00:28:54.440 --> 00:29:04.258 i don't know the doctor if he still hanging in there surprisingly where he will say something cautious he's been this week 00:29:04.247 --> 00:29:12.430 because we're getting towards the election and there's a lot of talk about vaccines we know russia has released their vaccine, 00:29:12.443 --> 00:29:25.680 i have no information on that thing but you know it's out i guess one of putin's many robot daughters took the vaccine so that must mean something some she still alive, 00:29:25.693 --> 00:29:27.790 maybe heard if she wasn't. 00:29:27.490 --> 00:29:39.441 Yeah is the director of the national institute of allergy infectious diseases so it's not directly in the city c but he has been in the coronavirus task force that. 00:29:39.484 --> 00:29:40.493 Ask for. 00:29:40.199 --> 00:29:47.055 Sometimes allowed to do something but never ready to make an impact on the extra policies there. 00:29:47.428 --> 00:29:55.972 Yeah it's him and debra burks why don't know much about but she's always there and then pens pencils and charge of taxi task force. 00:29:55.852 --> 00:30:07.257 Which means would you can always read like if he is in charge nothing will happen like or like like all the sons of champlin. 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:17.034 What is not doing what use to do as far as i know i don't listen to anyone speechless what is not telling people to pray it away which is one of his common strategies for things you got away. 00:30:18.549 --> 00:30:20.357 Skip spence i think pence. 00:30:19.212 --> 00:30:20.880 Yes. 00:30:20.736 --> 00:30:29.960 Governors yanni was all about these i think he's crazy strategies on what he thinks homosexuality is 00:30:29.918 --> 00:30:36.479 end how he thinks we should handle it handle it as a society. 00:30:36.191 --> 00:30:44.483 Let's let's broiler move on in general two hours discover crises has impacted well. 00:30:45.085 --> 00:30:47.079 The us in particular. 00:30:47.657 --> 00:30:59.350 Maybe the world made it's been the defining topic of this year and thought that is interesting on many levels. 00:31:01.171 --> 00:31:07.222 Specially because of the election but it has also change. 00:31:07.805 --> 00:31:22.310 The world are nobody really knows where this is going to detour which means this potential instability because once people don't know where things are going no, 00:31:22.503 --> 00:31:31.763 begin sings changed it would expected that's like the the lumineers problem that that moe instability is in san countries. 00:31:32.250 --> 00:31:38.313 Will you tomorrow or conflict of coast but there's usually associated with countries that. 00:31:38.794 --> 00:31:50.541 Do not have you know it well functioning administration well functioning civilization if you were here will end 00:31:50.536 --> 00:31:55.979 no the us summer-house has managed to get. 00:31:56.370 --> 00:32:08.484 The top rings not the top ranked in this list where would we be really surprised he like what the hell are you so this function and all that you can't even, 00:32:08.611 --> 00:32:15.647 hello sounds like this with all the resources you have and that's what was so. 00:32:16.447 --> 00:32:25.490 Surprising to see if it for me because i thought well this is going to be difficult for the us. 00:32:25.971 --> 00:32:32.028 Just because of the way so, 00:32:32.058 --> 00:32:46.684 pause social security is organized the specials the medical system is organized so that was my expectation from the start that there will be problems but i won't have expected to be as bad, 00:32:46.792 --> 00:32:51.173 is there toddler incapable of dealing with the for such a long time. 00:32:51.564 --> 00:32:56.713 Yeah i mean it's a lie the used a lot now especially because of the election that. 00:32:57.038 --> 00:33:07.974 It is because of trump that things are so bad that if someone else has been president no matter what the party that it wouldn't have gotten 00:33:07.944 --> 00:33:14.446 difficult searchin because their hypothetical are we don't know in the end we just know that the man 00:33:14.434 --> 00:33:22.792 doesn't do things very well not just communicate but so also, 00:33:22.829 --> 00:33:31.854 i think you very correct having been raised in the us and spend a decent amount of time trying to understand it is a country so many 00:33:31.794 --> 00:33:38.656 gaps not just in terms of income but space styles of living 00:33:38.530 --> 00:33:51.522 end we see it whenever election comes around and you think you know how people are gonna go and then they don't go that way are you think you know what people would value and then they value something else some someone else so. 00:33:51.865 --> 00:33:55.229 It's hard to say how could this happen, 00:33:55.344 --> 00:34:10.228 any country that has so many resources because the country is notorious lee bad at handling what it has including yes latino you have potentially great healthcare for people if you can afford it right if you can get there so. 00:34:10.415 --> 00:34:14.825 This fitz and way not everyone will agree obviously but this fits 00:34:14.729 --> 00:34:21.777 with what the us is it's a place of so many contradictions and it's a place that looks very shiny from outside, 00:34:21.814 --> 00:34:30.719 maybe were you when you're actually in it and as you travelers you listen to people you find it's it's actually full of problems 00:34:30.611 --> 00:34:39.041 before corona and then you compounded when you saw corona on it and then you see it play out indeed it's gone i would say 00:34:39.030 --> 00:34:47.160 pretty bad as bad maybe as it could get i don't know but yeah unless surprise about how bad is gone, 00:34:47.196 --> 00:34:56.558 it's just interesting how hard it is for a desert to die times like new york new jersey the hollies coast having been the first place where these things spread and were bad 00:34:56.372 --> 00:35:05.325 yes the big open spaces i guess that expensive but there was not so much corona but now it's flipped right now that big pup in spaces do have corona 00:35:05.181 --> 00:35:12.404 the kumar crowded coastal cities have gotten some kind of handle on it with spikes of course so it's just 00:35:12.308 --> 00:35:15.889 unpredictable every time you think you know america you don't, 00:35:15.961 --> 00:35:28.111 just so many different people live i fancy myself more of a person who can tell you about new jersey new york maybe east coast i can't tell you about 00:35:27.998 --> 00:35:37.318 cancel without talking to friends and kansas it's just too different re make speak the same language but we don't live the same life at all. 00:35:37.576 --> 00:35:43.092 I mean that's interesting this is probably the first time i've seen, 00:35:43.339 --> 00:35:54.611 details one hundred one comparisons between the us and the iu because once you put up those numbers you know you gotta direct. 00:35:55.201 --> 00:36:02.483 Correlation molesta real time and that's a few that usually, 00:36:02.538 --> 00:36:08.949 well i only see if you were like comparing the economic power 00:36:08.848 --> 00:36:17.872 of these markets that's what you get the numbers way you see like ok more aless the same 00:36:17.819 --> 00:36:22.926 amount of people live in countries combined, 00:36:23.041 --> 00:36:30.672 yes indeed in the us all of causes a bit more in the us the general body party in the same. 00:36:31.309 --> 00:36:40.809 Field so i would you say about kansas i mean the struts for omi making. 00:36:41.140 --> 00:36:48.717 Any command on slovenia or you know well some countries i know better some. 00:36:49.090 --> 00:37:01.582 Concerts i haven't even visited yet so in a way the same astro for the you and on top of that we don't even have that's that that the same language. 00:37:01.926 --> 00:37:09.917 The the common language of course in the us also english which is. 00:37:10.482 --> 00:37:22.056 Only spoken natively one of the smallest members an island now that you're gone which is funny enough. 00:37:21.756 --> 00:37:31.959 Is that we start from a point of ignore that not pretending like it isn't true i can't like that compared to the united. 00:37:33.846 --> 00:37:38.250 Exactly. 00:37:38.370 --> 00:37:40.022 That then i mean. 00:37:40.336 --> 00:37:54.883 More united on some levels in odessa common army just wanna international politics for lisa should be of course different because that something that will still take. 00:37:55.761 --> 00:38:05.038 Yes is not decades in the u two some how developing i think it's time 00:38:04.895 --> 00:38:17.351 verify some point edition critical point everybody knows like ok we're just going to be better off if we finally united on this topic might have help 00:38:17.315 --> 00:38:24.057 uk left this point but there's still strong division of cozz between 00:38:23.907 --> 00:38:33.353 francis germany closest day are they still have a very different myself how to deal with the world and francis still 00:38:33.227 --> 00:38:42.217 you know woodward really like everybody to keep on talking french on the diplomatic. 00:38:41.917 --> 00:38:46.759 Keep it to parliament going call someone. 00:38:46.459 --> 00:38:56.698 Set the comparison is is is available one in the new venue seahawk hold us ideas of being united some hole, 00:38:56.783 --> 00:39:03.663 fails because they have been able to come to any kind of control europa, 00:39:03.748 --> 00:39:09.318 things have been manage quite differently in many countries. 00:39:09.702 --> 00:39:21.017 I don't really get what is the problem because if it's really something that should work on a state level. 00:39:21.306 --> 00:39:30.686 Is that the federal government is really tupido y ancho state is doing or 00:39:30.626 --> 00:39:43.749 is it just the lacs of control that would be needed to make this dates for aso different world walks at all in where where is the the the problem regenerating, 00:39:43.822 --> 00:39:53.046 rewind you think what would the car the root of the problem of not being able to deal with the crisis is. 00:39:54.837 --> 00:40:02.149 I think one of the problems is health related crisis what is a very. 00:40:02.576 --> 00:40:12.304 Broken healthcare system but i think there's something else which is this beliefs i mean i find it fascinating that. 00:40:12.648 --> 00:40:26.997 Will say like anytime corona what should the terminal are decisions government why do should be science should be facts facts science still required. 00:40:27.268 --> 00:40:29.791 Amount of believe you have to believe in them, 00:40:29.791 --> 00:40:42.800 it's larger discussion behind this but if you don't believe in the science someone is presenting you that's hard because people don't follow the recommendations they won't follow the even though their facts there. 00:40:43.126 --> 00:40:49.729 I think of us one of the problems is from very early in this crisis there was a debate. 00:40:50.072 --> 00:40:58.382 Is there was recently people who did not believe in all of the what needs to be done as far as we know, 00:40:58.593 --> 00:41:04.229 america not believe it they believe the complete opposite, 00:41:04.433 --> 00:41:14.348 i'm not so honestly i'm not so into the there's a sort of superiority around masks where a mask otherwise you ruin me things for everyone, 00:41:14.553 --> 00:41:20.610 i understand and i'm going to do it on the other hand it became like a montreal 00:41:20.562 --> 00:41:34.407 throw it people who didn't wanna wear masks or skeptical i know you know all the whole mixed bag of white people didn't wear masks but then not wearing masks became a point of pride i know this is happening another countries too, 00:41:34.557 --> 00:41:42.326 it became a point of resistance it became connected to expire expand myself expression so. 00:41:42.645 --> 00:41:48.672 This becomes very hard to get people to step together on this tuesday 00:41:48.660 --> 00:42:00.840 online in terms of what you need to do let's just do this together because it became such a it won't be on health it would be on the good of all came no wait your hurting me by trying to help me 00:42:00.811 --> 00:42:09.409 i think once that happens it becomes very hard weather is from a leader or from just a regular citizen and we just had that from the very beginning, 00:42:09.608 --> 00:42:18.315 in the us and receive europe different forms but it's it's more in pockets and i guess hasn't been a 00:42:18.249 --> 00:42:23.032 is widespread this is not talk about i see it here in netherlands 00:42:22.918 --> 00:42:35.236 i don't say it but there is a general resistance two things like wearing masks two things like not getting together i have parties i believe in us city so maybe i'm seeing exceptional situation 00:42:35.195 --> 00:42:47.309 they don't say it out loud they don't go to marches well there have been some but they just do it they just go out and they say yeah respect the measures were supposed to take, 00:42:47.435 --> 00:42:49.454 i mean while i'm gonna go against the right now. 00:42:49.695 --> 00:43:01.141 Point of us and they go off their crazy over there and off we go over here to party in close distance to travel to the big push hurt people feel like i do travel for 00:43:01.064 --> 00:43:02.710 what is it five six months, 00:43:02.752 --> 00:43:13.640 i need to go to spain now i need to go to italy and i am not superior to these people i am looking at plane tickets to get to portugal because. 00:43:13.917 --> 00:43:20.437 I missed so much and i'm worried about things that are there that i'm not a word about things and maybe some people but. 00:43:20.863 --> 00:43:29.131 So it's this weird split mind oregon split culture that says i'm not we're not, 00:43:29.282 --> 00:43:32.389 on the same page about we have to do or not gonna stick to it. 00:43:33.531 --> 00:43:40.435 Innocense i don't think the us is that different it's just it happened maybe earlier from the very beginning this resistance. 00:43:44.257 --> 00:43:54.153 I mean ok that's indians always been u very special thing on how the event individuals the government. 00:43:55.187 --> 00:44:05.126 Government is supposed to do a what's the government is supposed not to do in what the government shouldn't be involved in this whole. 00:44:05.589 --> 00:44:09.663 Which is probably most sings, 00:44:09.723 --> 00:44:19.199 especially with gun law this this floating idea that did you need guns because once the government turns against you can you do something about 00:44:19.110 --> 00:44:24.457 which is summer turn up on the head right now because now the government is actually 00:44:24.313 --> 00:44:31.043 put the doing bad things to the people and then the gun people are coming in defending the government for. 00:44:30.779 --> 00:44:33.507 Yes. 00:44:31.248 --> 00:44:37.677 I don't reasons which tells be it's just more about you know. 00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:42.460 Keeping up the ideas of slavery forever. 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:52.784 It's not really about freedom and nyc the republican convention right now i mean the the fear spreading 00:44:52.670 --> 00:45:01.731 is angus they have another this whole notion of dangerous in the air it's all about me like yeah things change because. 00:45:02.032 --> 00:45:12.662 Will what day mean is the blacks and the latino and asian people are going to in ontario, 00:45:12.909 --> 00:45:18.196 supremacy away from you i'm so anyway, 00:45:18.425 --> 00:45:23.274 we've seen with the black lives matter movement this year this. 00:45:24.638 --> 00:45:32.215 The same shows that might be one of the core fights going on in the us. 00:45:33.496 --> 00:45:45.435 Set this is really corre of the conflict of this society that their many things that fighting about but in the end it is this ongoing division, 00:45:45.502 --> 00:45:51.030 and white people predominately having the well the power, 00:45:51.210 --> 00:46:00.170 index country that that is some how about to end just demographics and, 00:46:00.356 --> 00:46:06.635 even the republican ruel with seems to be the guarantee for this situation to continue 00:46:06.521 --> 00:46:15.859 is orange demolition man when was the last time a republican actually got the most votes in the presidential election that's been a long time ago so 00:46:15.854 --> 00:46:24.248 play it all feels like that was also giving me a food for my options my ongoing optimism that of course. 00:46:24.555 --> 00:46:28.322 Dial situation right now 00:46:28.184 --> 00:46:40.797 of course the the problem seem to just accelerate put some how is also the last breath of this months that's about to die anyway it's just not dead yet. 00:46:41.560 --> 00:46:42.263 No 00:46:42.017 --> 00:46:50.802 Yeah yeah i have the feelin' it it's your pants everything i say so you can i find the feeling 00:46:50.742 --> 00:46:54.305 nothing says valley but i have a feeling we been here before 00:46:54.203 --> 00:47:07.820 in a different form in a different time what we been here before and we often think this is such a unique moment of course every moment is unique but at the same time we been here before and every election 00:47:07.754 --> 00:47:19.044 especially around election time the same kind of languages used again receive the other coming for your guns the other side is saying something like they want to destroyer country i mean, 00:47:19.243 --> 00:47:27.553 the same strategies are being used but there so loud right now and of course, 00:47:27.686 --> 00:47:36.555 the the potion see in the message from black lives matter has made it very far, 00:47:36.598 --> 00:47:44.229 very interesting very exciting i would say in terms of the masks support for it in, 00:47:44.427 --> 00:47:49.961 evening high profile places that normally would i be tried toonorth but this is also this fight 00:47:49.848 --> 00:47:57.959 over language open watching i don't recommend it but i been watching the republican so called convention speeches and i watched some of the 00:47:57.833 --> 00:48:08.361 democratic easier to watch this year because i like a minute long thanks the video limitations of attention span so they're all trying to argue that. 00:48:08.590 --> 00:48:16.990 One side will say black lives matter is a struggle for justice that is long overdue and black lives matter protest, 00:48:17.057 --> 00:48:20.175 encourages people to look critically and who they are 00:48:20.121 --> 00:48:32.115 who the country is so all these things used to celebrate take a second look is that actually wasn't built on someone suffering on someone's slavery about we also just 00:48:31.971 --> 00:48:40.714 yeah chief keef things by harming others the other side of saying do you want to be a shamed all the time 00:48:40.702 --> 00:48:48.934 do you want to live in a country where always apologizing yeah we were looking back in our notes from two thousand seventeen a big thing, 00:48:48.959 --> 00:48:51.909 when trump was on his campaign when he became president 00:48:51.795 --> 00:49:03.969 they still refer to it in raleigh they called it the apology tour in what the hell are they talking about it was that window bomb was elected president that he was travelling of course is visiting countries and, 00:49:04.071 --> 00:49:14.401 according to the the sort of the right when he was doing was apologizing for america america's behavior america's actions and what trump was saying in was, 00:49:14.449 --> 00:49:25.271 really getting the attention of great white good good health people don't apologize powerful, 00:49:25.392 --> 00:49:33.287 message the idea like are you gonna go my way the next four eight years do we want to be ashamed of stuff or do we want to be proud. 00:49:33.738 --> 00:49:43.004 Apparently many people prefer to just be proud it's not you easier and meat loaf interestingly a large section of the country says, 00:49:43.059 --> 00:49:56.692 no i'm ready to be critical by the way this is something i always looked to germany with admiration as a teenager young adult which i think i'm no longer qualified as it was, 00:49:56.747 --> 00:50:10.351 the germans i knew you when of my closest friends even though busy but the german always were critical of who they are who they were and the americans of course up with were just not no. 00:50:10.406 --> 00:50:19.683 Yes we can be with became the become the the masters of apollo apologizing. 00:50:19.912 --> 00:50:23.295 Yes that there's not sure. 00:50:20.555 --> 00:50:26.660 It's been a spot in a way somehow. 00:50:26.864 --> 00:50:40.787 Life doesnt fall apart that's one of the feels like if you start if you start criticizing your own history you're identity and then everything will be lost that's you know that the fear i think it feels a lot of voting the what are you then. 00:50:41.106 --> 00:50:44.789 I think the answer is your a fine human but you know. 00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.707 I mean is it has helped germany a lot. 00:50:49.272 --> 00:51:01.597 How was absolutely necessary of course in just can't kill millions of people on a industrial level and then say oops sorry. 00:51:01.297 --> 00:51:03.561 What countries have tried but yeah. 00:51:03.616 --> 00:51:13.092 We don't really wanna apologize would be destructing so it has established. 00:51:13.459 --> 00:51:23.373 The position we are there in the world and it in the end it has really. 00:51:23.837 --> 00:51:37.675 Play out of it is it it's a very positive sing to do and that's why what of course you won't in the same position now they don't really understand. 00:51:38.162 --> 00:51:40.746 What they have done over 00:51:40.644 --> 00:51:50.691 all those years and nobody is saying everything is bad the us is doing of course some people woods say that but that's that's also 00:51:50.559 --> 00:52:04.854 contributions that culturally politically that the people would love to attribute to the us without hesitance it's. 00:52:05.197 --> 00:52:14.336 Add a good reasons while you could love you didn't really have to love but just respect us. 00:52:14.746 --> 00:52:26.697