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Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I also was very honored when people say my favorite podcast no play maybe they tweet that every few days about a different podcast but i was like your favorite this mos definitely few years.
Tim Pritlove: Yes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No that makes me take this even more seriously to know this is your favorite that i'm gonna work harder.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah yup but it was really nice to get all that feedback from people i saw mostly on twitter and india very happy.
Tim Pritlove: So we promise to focus on the world and this time especially on the use to action now with the elections coming up and we manage to meet again after four weeks so i guess we haven't interesting times want to look at.
Tim Pritlove: Well did we miss anything.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Nothing happens in this year over the course i just a few weeks like it's all over home home button i think top item today was the passing of ruth bader ginsburg.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I think it was a cancer other shit been fighting cancer for many years n surviving and thriving in different ways but it did she passed away i guess its last week at this point
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it would be a gap a hole in the supreme court acdc very important see as ruth bader ginsburg progressive
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: many different ways but certainly we often look at the supreme court in the say ok there's so called conservative judges in their so called
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: progressive liberal judges and now i think that number is somewhere sixty two.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Evening on what happens from here so now there's the say goodbye to one great figure in the supreme court and wondering what happens next.
Tim Pritlove: Well lets talk about about her because she's not just like a judge or a liberal progressive drudge she's being very.
Tim Pritlove: Should i put it very special personality.
Tim Pritlove: What's on this call foreva and she died now in at the age of was it.
Tim Pritlove: Seventy nine eight.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Sporting thirty-three.
Tim Pritlove: When she was still thriving to communication skills but not remember the wonderful tv workout she did.
Tim Pritlove: Who is stephen colbert and she was working out regularly.
Tim Pritlove: Enter she was fighting everything that could keep her from actually doing the stop.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I said that tribute on the bbc where is just a video clip her body laid in state in the capitol
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: delete this week and her personal trainer was a soldier it appear from his uniform came to the kascade and then dropped in did push ups as a sort of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: one of her i guess they would you push ups together.
Tim Pritlove: Yes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i mean chess very unique figure i also find it fascinating she every supreme court judge has their.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Career could be a very long career that's how you got it game the attention of those who president's and such indeed ruth bader ginsburg head
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: really everywhere she went as from being a lost student,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: harvard in columbia to eventually working as a lawyer for causes that i know there's no money in it was it was social justice campaign in even within social justice campaign she would
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: come up against
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: people who are tell her not now let's not do this weather was issues for women weather was issues for minority's other minorities and ginsburg was
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: always fighting and india in the nineties when she became a supreme court judges like wow
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add this person in it's amazing that we have someone like this and so it very unique figure maybe someone the likes of which will never see again.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Also because she was even there we keep saying liberal wing liberal wing she was very look like any good judge really regardless of your politics she would listen to consider and she would,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: make a judgment wasn't i already know what the answer is i know what i should be i find when i listen to her speak and when i look at her opinions they weren't,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: those of someone who is pushing so cold political agenda if there was any agenda it was right right for all,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end the sort of making sure that that is always paramount.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: But not often see if she was a progressive because i guess we arriving at a time where that's not common to have judges like that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Apparently the new standard is judges who are pushing some kind of agenda which i suppose looks like it's,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: open gonna be conservative we really sing the politician of the supreme court now it's always been political but now it's it's taking a really big turned becoming more political and it's i find it
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: quit strange and that's also makes the passing ruth bader ginsburg even sadder because maybe the end of an era.
Tim Pritlove: When the supreme court has been the forecast for quit sometime now everybody knows the trump administration
Tim Pritlove: try to push very hard to get conservatives into any ranks in the industry not only the supreme court.
Tim Pritlove: What is everything combination when.
Tim Pritlove: Who was the one who step back from the c the supreme court this be replaced last time.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The last one would be the death of scalia if i'm not mistaken or was the.
Tim Pritlove: No that was a is somebody was steppin' back then brett kavanaugh was.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Kennedy brave.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That's a good question so weird have we don't have pubs anymore about public question may have been kennedy yes yes.
Tim Pritlove: Alright weather.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes anthony kennedy i guess step back for health reasons yeah i think people stay till i die which is common he did not.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Kavanaugh during trump we got neil course it's during trump that's basically one year difference twenty seventeen two thousand eighteen now in two thousand twenty we made.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Seems get acdc abc amy coming connie amy coney forget.
Tim Pritlove: Ok what whatever three acronyms is so let's have a look at.
Tim Pritlove: What the low of the supreme court is in the us system and what so special about how people are being appointed to it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean roll is i think you have this is in germany of this most countries some kind of a high court that is going to rule on weather not policies past by generally congress
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: daily hold up to the constitution and maybe beyond that but i supposed to be
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: mostly towards the constitution says so over the years even more recently when obama was president is many of you will remember there was his health care act the affordable care act and
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it was past by congress i've course they were many cases trying to knock it down and eventually the supreme court
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: roll on this matter and they said it so it is legal to do this and that makes a huge difference that means the program can go on and can exist
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: of course more more legendary back from nineteen seventy three roe vs wade was the essentially the court case at the supreme court that said abortion is legal or,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: in other words there's nothing within the us constitution that says or anything towards yes or no for abortions that's a matter.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Set the people i can decide themselves or state some level,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no wait no states can't do anything about it federal basically ruling for all states to follow so we also seen historically the supreme court rulings on matters related to education access to education access to ballad of gay marriage
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: not so long ago also supreme court ruled in favor of it so
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the supreme court has this power to make what become very socially impactful laws stick,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: stay so the abortion love for example abortion policy has remains since nineteen seventy three amazing amount of time for people to still be talking about possibly reversing it,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: list some politicians trying so the supreme court has this tremendous power on american society and how it either changes,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what doesn't change a especially new programs new policies that might be considered and high what is the word,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: constitutional nono this a better word for it but a violation of the constitution and someway unconstitutional.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes the word.
Tim Pritlove: The ninety help joggers actually do the rolling and they are appointed by the president.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Are there approved by senate the world always nineteen nineteen kame in to play somewhere.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: In the early midnight queen hundred thirty fxmldr and fkj who had his no deal who was president for three terms the last president to be,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: to be able to do that attila change the law and he purposely did what's called court packing or expanded the supreme court.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So that he could nominate judges to help him pass elements of the new deal which were.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: A new whole new thing as the title suggests some people don't overstepping his bound so he needed the supreme court to rule,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's not very cool democratic bonita that supreme court to support his policies so it became a nine judge panel,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end this is also interesting it doesn't have to stay nine judges the us doesn't seem like a place these days that is gonna make,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: any kind of changes in favor of progressive politics but it would be possible
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for example if bison becomes president to expand the court crazy by the way if he expends the court what's the next president does this become a new,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: sing a trends but yes it's it's nine judge's and their certainly one see it now that is up for a nomination,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: apparently by our current president trump and it looks he's doing it is nominating i don't know when the vote happens it's happening.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: More quickly certainly than the democrats wanted and that relates also back to the the end of alabama administration when.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Obama could have nominated someone ten months,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: before leaving of survival heard this story now but there it is you know what they do to guys.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Now you're not stalling of course of a lot of democrats are calling fall.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: And sing this is horrible when it was our time we didn't do such a thing not fair is basically the call that's being showed across the.
Tim Pritlove: Not only the day did not the same thing in the very same situation but nomination of a new judge by barack obama was actually primitive by the republican led zeppelin last time.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah that's what gives you a lot of power right i mean had been a democrat send it maybe we will seen really quickly someone get nominated someone get approved but,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: they have the senate and once again as we speak they have the senate this is an ongoing problem.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Especially if you were with the democratic party in the us they have not had the senate in quit sometime.
Tim Pritlove: So what do you think do you think they're going to russia through and just going to happen or is there any legal or not legal way to prevent this from happening.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I originally win when are we go died i thought,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: do not gonna do it because there's a few let's call them rebels their not they haven't been rebels but they they know are republicans in the senate who aren't with trump,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for various reasons including having been constantly offended by him in the case of ramones ramen has been insulted over and over again,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: by this president is no friend of donald trump and so someone like him,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what easily not vote with trump easily he's not gonna do it is already said he will actually vote,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for whoever trumpets forward sort of choosing party over
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: never mind what the president said about me there others and iglesias house key in alaska
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: this is the last few weeks even of of being a senator that retiring or so.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Decoded been and they still could be republicans that suprises,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't go with trump but unfortunately there have been enough statements from these various potential no votes that are coming out saying no favors so it doesn't look like,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there's enough vote to turn the tables of the majority republican senate and you still got if there were a tie the vice president gets to vote.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So i don't even looking around the articles for any kind of way that this is gonna be stopped and i still can't see it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean the reason national outcry that people are very annoyed,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add this is happening that were using the quotes from mitch mcconnell during the end of the obama administration who said.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Supreme court at the new judge faith preme court should be chosen by the voters in this next selection.
Tim Pritlove: Which mcdonald being the leader of the senate.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: yeah using his words now the democrats are to try to say hey this is the standard but what's the standard.
Tim Pritlove: Play just don't care it's the same with lindsey graham.
Tim Pritlove: Also say you can put my own words against me explicitly stating that happen now does happened nobody cares yeah.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes so i don't know i can't see it i'm looking around this week for anyone who finds a way that you can stall that would be interesting or or shift vote somehow
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: but an hour we have a amy coney barrett as the wonder gonna vote on and i'm looking through her sort of record
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end so far i don't see like brett kavanaugh has this horrible reputation,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: with women that was subject for,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: of course a lot of criticism potentially but not get nominated voted favorably at all amy coney barrett so far doesn't have that doesn't have so far with their,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: attacking her with is her religion and i don't know if it's gonna work and also let's not forget.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Democrats are appealing to centrists they don't want to attack religious people right now they want the religious people in this is a sort of bed of the bitten campaign now we're we're going over into the presidential campaign cause it's
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's all related democrats are very afraid right now to a friend central voters that means religious people conservatives of different types
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: they want these people so this is there this is what their banking on to win and so this also hurts them and when it's time to attack a candidate like this for a for the supreme court
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm so i find the democrats their hands are kind of they tie their own hands it doesn't seem like they can stop this they don't have the votes,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think they don't have the wheel based on what are trying to do by getting biden elected and get those former trump voters.
Tim Pritlove: Show my visit to fox sing on winning the election and then probably expanding the the the the court.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean the expansion of course thing is i read a lot of the washington post things to someone who gave me an account and that would be a move,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think we livin' on a high wire that's possible but if they were to try it the democrats would get a lot of anger joe biden future president would get,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: a lot of anger and him do they will call him a further sort of trader of the country trying to change manipulate the country all the things we say about trump they will try to say about buying because he's changing something that's considered,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the song stand for edition nine c supreme court but i think i think they would try it and.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah i don't know i don't know what happens after that.
Tim Pritlove: What kind of power do they need to do it do they need to be in control of the senate so basically sorry.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes they do that i need to vote the vote.
Tim Pritlove: Yes ok so busy everything.
Tim Pritlove: The democrats need to one touch chief needs having control of the senate anyways so thats the main focus now.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I need yes i don't know if there gonna look their more focus on getting the presidency and then maybe in my look ladies and gentlemen for listening i am not a political analyst i'm not a professional at this but,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i do feel the democratic party is focus on getting the presidency that mobilize people towards this end.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Everything else has been put to the side and i think that even winning the senate the mighty fall victim to this whole thing will see cause we didn't you and i,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: set that were close that might be one there's a this summer games to be made but i don't know that when this election is over there predicted to actually control the set it so we're gonna have a bit and presidency,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end potentially a slightly republicans by two seater something else senate
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't know what happens when i need to become like an obama presidency many people will say yeah i miss those days but it doesn't bothwell for the supreme court,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for the decisions there gonna be made on specific issues trump things you know what i mean trump thanks a lot of things you shouldn't taken two seriously but you think that there could even be,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the helios open two abortion being declared ilegal but you know that would need certain case climb to the supreme court.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: For people who are panicking.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I would point one thing out an internet turn back to you tube people often think of every judge s being liberal or conservative.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: End that it seems like their all wearing that bag openly now or least accepting this is kind of tag.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: We have seen supreme court justices who were actually considered conservative nominated by eden recently like trump and they rule in favor of so cold more let's say liberal policies we've seen it on a few vote,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm saying is not saying that makes me everyone should sleep well at night but judges do not always vote the way we label them not owe,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: subdue scalia was legendary for it but the we do have some judges that even bother considered conservative they don't always go conservative you know this is not a lot of hopex hang on too but it's something.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: You're still a judge.
Tim Pritlove: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: Raise particular interesting in this electric guest canada,
Tim Pritlove: the whole electron is going to turn out in the is of course always a liberal majority in america which has problems of coming out because of the election system as long as the election system is like it is just going to be decided in a few
Tim Pritlove: states and right now doesn't really look.
Tim Pritlove: But fantasy the descent situation with my testing because it has been so powerful blocking everything democrats wanted to do
Tim Pritlove: during the obama presidency and sam evian enabled.
Tim Pritlove: Trump to get away with so many stuff in the
Tim Pritlove: what you doing every day and understand
Tim Pritlove: european position where are all look across the ocean select what the hell you know i mean it,
Tim Pritlove: impossible to to comprehend how's this could go on and on and on preacher there a lot of people hit the us just feel the same.
Tim Pritlove: So i have feeling this the senate race some how could be a turning point once the democrats would be able to actually get the seeds and seen.
Tim Pritlove: What we have seen the the the states.
Tim Pritlove: Love for the presidential election that have never been considered to be swing states never been considered to be a bbq by.
Tim Pritlove: Play the democrats actually now on on the line somewhere texas arizona.
Tim Pritlove: Florida probably weather always been u springsteen somewhere are there any other examples.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Are north carolina south carolina competitive could be become republic sorry democrats and yeah yeah.
Tim Pritlove: What does this mean for the senators because the senators i'm in here two senators from each state so you could one hundred senators from each state the fifty states of the others should be at least fifty two.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No set wilson guam represent.
Tim Pritlove: Oh washington.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Represent washington dc reply.
Tim Pritlove: Maybe fifty three or even while an hour fifty five just add water states.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah you have people been covered in those places yet.
Tim Pritlove: Yes puppy so which senate seats on actually up for grabs during the selection.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok so there are twenty three republicans seats in play and their twelve democratic seeds also being voted were there being voted,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: of the twenty three republicans seats thirteen are considered competitive now i'm not i can't come in right now and how competitive their considered close enough to mention of the democratic twelve seats only two,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: are competitive so best case scenario the democrats game thirteen seats that would be pretty it be like,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: a perfect game thinking a baseball customer just at the end of baseball season anyways so the places where we could see a change our as we just mentioned texas arizona alaska,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: going democrat.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Pause sibling i mean it is possible this year georgia south carolina north carolina kentucky where we just had the ruling on the brianna taylor case could go democratic and then we have montana iowa and maine.
Tim Pritlove: Kentucky that would be mitch mcconnell that would be the leader of the senate.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is that his supposed.
Tim Pritlove: Is from kentucky i think he is up for reelection.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes i don't have his record in front of me but yeah yeah.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah but see but that's interesting that it would even be considered competitive because my impression was that he was a very popular senator released from his tate.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is also hated senator.
Tim Pritlove: If there are so headed why the keep getting related i mean.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah we'll hated nationally and their like locally like our god yes so even the washington post in kentucky,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there's a democrat name amy mcgrath don't do anything about sorry their listeners they doubt,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the chicken unsaid send it majority leader mitch mcconnell as you said tenth the spider massive fundraising she's been trying not to elliott trent voters and but she's been doing better than expected.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: It's suspected that mitch mcconnell collected is homestead cause it's been so busy with these national issues in keeping a secret majority.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So he only has a five point lead according to recent polls over mcgrath which is indeed not much.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So there's a lot of it is in this a lot of independence kentucky,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which could back her so she's been trying apparently not too attack trump too much to potentially keep there is again the sort of voted trump maybe not this time kind of voters.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: It's still day labeled as a quote it would take a historic democratic to name to knockout mcconnell,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so thats where this map and i'm getting in the washington post is a little weird because even the ones they consider competitive.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: End the breakdown they say well it would take quite something to have anything texas similar you know it would really take.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Without looking at who the candid is it will take some change and like a storm push.
Tim Pritlove: How do you say senate elections run the same way is do you have always to to win a certain local area and then you get the whole world from the local area or direct ford white people are
Tim Pritlove: what everybody counts.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Senators every vocals in the state so i just got my balance actually here somewhere,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: traveled with my ballet which print it out in amsterdam to here to portugal and i have to mail it tomorrow would be a good day to do it and there on my ballet for new jersey it says you know corey booker.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: End whoever the other person is i don't know.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Take off the box for my friend corey and that's that doesn't matter wear a new jersey i live end that i don't live.
Tim Pritlove: The most people in the us do they don't even look the other guy is right.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That's a good point,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i look that look i looked at the other candidates from the third parties because that's really fun that's more for the congressional race.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Set it doesn't matter where you live for congress.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So no that i know you could you could just get people to vote in certain numbers larger numbers better where they live in the state of you could you could,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: can happen anywhere really impacts these races both congressional and senate is when population shift for example.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Take north carolina south carolina for more than a decade
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: people from the northeast new jersey new york has been moving down there some to retire but also some for work because the northeast crowded
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end their deciding to go south along the coast of two start a life somewhere else there's a lot of companies down there and work for these big corporations so this can shift your let's say once very solidly democrat
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: sally republican conservative state to be more.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Liberals let's see maybe not progressive so that's where will see some of the staves change arizona it makes sense to some extent that arizona changes because the population is changing i think is,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: when you're a state where lot of retired people go i could go either way you could become more conservative florida is confusing because
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's a lot of retired people but it's retired people with different kinds of politics but not retired teachers have a different voting patterns than retired cops.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So there is no that's why states are changing weather not is this election,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: this could be a sign for future elections as population shift continues.
Tim Pritlove: Find the sports interesting this changed the slide change in undemocratic because on the one and it's it's a slow process us you set people moving in slow motion probably not moving on mask.
Tim Pritlove: Is it constant change and in january also.
Tim Pritlove: This new trend.
Tim Pritlove: Which was caused by the coronavirus crises the people are leaving the oven areas for countryside because now there are much better chances of doing work from home.
Tim Pritlove: And which also means.
Tim Pritlove: Living a chef way of life because live in the cities has been super expensive especially in some areas like california.
Tim Pritlove: This probably too early to see any outcome of this but the combine demographics also with
Tim Pritlove: white people are no longer having a majority the demographics moises spanish joint the population in america this this tendency
Tim Pritlove: there's probably sleeping majority for this republican party in the long run this name.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah it's it's very minutes is long and set to be very likely but yes that is something i mean,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there we say well the party weathers democratic or republican party their also trying to get with
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the trains so we just had the announcement on the brianna taylor of verdict which basically said that they cops were not guilty of a murder
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: romance louder as it works there was a attorney general sorry his name is skates me right now but he's a very young thirty four.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is a republican he's black and a lot of people within the republican party say he is the future of the party so another words conservative.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: But not
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: whiteman a young black men so for them anyway this is how their so cold trying to keep the numbers of people that support their party while still being conservatives
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i mean if anybody really bothered to watch the republican convention event they ruled out all kinds of people
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: who made you don't normally see representing the republican party because their trying to both recruited but also show,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is that their down with the changes in the country i think the democrats have long been much.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I'm gonna say much better at that but it's not a game now it's it's just simply it is the party of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: has been the party of immigrants of minorities because the other party isn't so it's a struggle now for both parties in their way of of embracing the changes
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm this is part of why never really worry i just told you i'm voting in the new jersey election but its far is the presidency this,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: does not really much chance that any republican.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: For the presidential scale around city girls possible but is going to win new jersey is a state of mostly.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: People who have arrived in the last twenty to thirty years of they vote democratic,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: and we see that all the big cities on the coast and around the lakes.
Tim Pritlove: When everybody knows that the trump never,
Tim Pritlove: even had a majority area majority the by popular volcano in the many voices clinton guts of the only way to survivor the republican soul to retain that power
Tim Pritlove: play little britain this old system of this electro,
Tim Pritlove: college with basely means you collect the voice in the states in india
Tim Pritlove: the definition of the outcome of the election also
Tim Pritlove: most people voted a different way how could this change is the supreme court here also a very defining factor and that's why there's so cute on
Tim Pritlove: getting a majority in the court.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: How could the electoral college system change.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah i mean someone would have to go as far from the governor level like a congressional level to try to abolish the electoral college i supposed president could also start such a campaign certainly bring it as a topic,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: yes we see how this president crazy or not he brings topics into the public conversation and some of them stick is issues that suddenly people care about.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean localities done with the postal system two three years ago
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no one was talking about how to close or expand the postal service
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the only conversation by ben howard the climb terms of use because the president talks about it becomes an issue so it would be possible if a president or brave enough a president bitten,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what brave enough to say you know this electoral college thing is it's not very democratic and it's time to close it up
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end of pasta policy passed a lot in the supreme court could simply ruled as fitting within,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the laws of the land of the constitution so i think the supreme court could have a rule if,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the governing people that are the congress in the executive branch wherever brave enough,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: talk about this but they won't never been brave enough to talk about this you know it's it's a trip edition it's too complicated the average citizen doesn't know much about it i don't know when we're gonna get to this
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i something that really.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Games attention in the public really demands the electoral college europa union.
Tim Pritlove: Will it is ridiculous that's not as big of a problem.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Agree agree to great.
Tim Pritlove: That's just expensive and annoying that that's basically it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes i think we're some how it's not a priority that's why bring up the two.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: It's not a priority for people and if it were that might get some traction,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: with you trying to do something about it daring to do something about everything else is just kept as some kind of tradition as what makes us america you know,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm sure they're people who think you know even the supreme court that it was it's nine judges because that's written in the constitution
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play people that believe that because it sounds like a good story know that's right this document the creator country and they say here is the president and there's a supreme court and put it it's not the case
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no this this seats were simply a president that was trying to get some policies passed any said ok let's make it nine now.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So yeah often the misfits people believe we have to have these things otherwise the country doesn't exist which is intro.
Tim Pritlove: Run into kaos.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes which we already living chaos so.
Tim Pritlove: Yes that's pretty of chaos already available so you could also just change everything else now.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean there is a believe that trump is no longer president the chaos is over and i say if trump is no longer kaya off trump is no longer president there is more still
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think that becomes you know its the republican party it's the influence of trump for sure,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: put everything is being games and used as part of this i guess
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: record a political race but it's just a two party fight i think that the court,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: could become even more in play not just money
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: adjust retiring your dies.
Tim Pritlove: Alright let's see how if.
Tim Pritlove: Message mom could get into any trouble.
Tim Pritlove: The news about him the shut up enters presidency everyday nothing i hear singles like this is a good choices in it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: He's like a normal president is.
Tim Pritlove: Is it really annoying and needs to go so everybody has been foxing on,
Tim Pritlove: this issue of tax returns is it has been a legal battle about the witch actually
Tim Pritlove: funny you mentioned at the supreme court sometimes you know makes decisions nobody but you has been expecting that way i think they are also been ruling on the the question of the president being
Tim Pritlove: force to show his tax returns have a text returns being published by the texas for ateez.
Tim Pritlove: What's the weather decision revol.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Definitely started with federal judges
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm not sure i want point if it was supreme court of all that remember that was the,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: eastern district fun new york that really pushed for this and trump even tried to get these federal judges fired or
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play.
Tim Pritlove: Yes i have no nothing really but i think they supreme court also was involved recently and confirm this ruling saw now the new york times actually got his hands on.
Tim Pritlove: On this tax returns of the last alarm what twenty five years or so twenty years.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes going all the way back ten of the previous fifteen years they have fifteen years.
Tim Pritlove: That's quite something and i mean usually,
Tim Pritlove: everybody would really like now we know the truth and bones we know the truth you know everything will change but do we have learn now in the last four years that,
Tim Pritlove: the truth doesn't really matter it's the way you spinach now it's just it's always immediate wall but before we look on the impact this might have have you looked at what actually was.
Tim Pritlove: Being published now what would the we know now that we've probably only suspected to be the truth.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What so what impressive is the even have information from the last few years which is still already shopping so in his first year and the in the year he won the presidency so it's actually.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No that includes the first year in the white house apparently he paid seven hundred and fifty dollars in federal income taxes seven hundred fifty dollars.
Tim Pritlove: Not seven hundred fifty million dollars or something.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No no no there's a dot just seven hundred fifty dollars so that's what he paid year he won the presidency and in the previous,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: fifteen years are listen ten of those fifteen years of ten years paid,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no income taxes because he reported losing more money than he made which is the practice i have been doing for years and still have to pay a lot of taxes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Find.
Tim Pritlove: I do not even president.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No that's what i know now i need to go into politics to justify my my losing money every year.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Let's see if he also apparently got a he's in an audio battle with the irs because he got a seventy two point nine million,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: tax refund doesn't say what year but it some point seventy two point nine million eight claimed and received
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: because declared so many losses and the irs apparently want some of this back and he won't do it there in court over it,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: may have to pay back one hundred million bc fighting back.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So recording the irs take send hundreds of millions a year buddy also prxz,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what's called chronic lawson's in the losses he does to avoid paying taxes,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: any way i mean look trump has always said these kind of things without specific are smart business.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So there it is now we see his smart business a little more out in the open nine twenty eighteen nineteen.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So what you know we know have the information that has long been speculated and is interesting cause it's such a huge fight to get this out.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Anything interesting cuz if he loses the selection.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes probably becomes more of an issue like page ten of the newspaper for the next few years former president trump,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: still fighting not to pay taxes judge rule against former president if he loses the election this is gonna be come.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I wonder if he wins selection of this stuff ever touched him just stay in court for.
Tim Pritlove: What does anybody care i mean this any of his voters cab this at all.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I don't think so no way past the point of rescue caring about it's like what i said you look at the ballet and see your guy,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i didn't look at the other think they look at the the ballad of red buckets the newspaper and they see their guy they don't see the numbers that he didn't pay the government i didn't know no i don't think matters.
Tim Pritlove: Turn nothing nothing really matters anymore that's.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: It's your basically queen where to queen song.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: He's just a poor boy nobody loves.
Tim Pritlove: Yes we work out in the bohemian rhapsody.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes is just a poor boy from a poor family,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i keep breaking everything down in terms of rub before public and democrats but maybe the hope serenely by the new york times i think is that there are people out there
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: who still looking this president and say look he's got horrible style.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I wish you wouldn't tweet so much receive these post that say that by as a president he is a good business mean he's been a good business manager good manager,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we think he's a good manager because we seen it before he became president we think he's assertive and in the end his
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: hey bot artist now this stuff on the tax returns potentially shows that he's not honest and that he is not a good business man i mean again we been here getting these things for years but now you have numbers so
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: maybe these people who like trump based on an app received,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: proficiency as president or no just being able to do this job now go o boy this guys not who is claim to be not even the good manager so those people might.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Find the important and they made based sessions
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: rounded i don't know legally legally what could happen to trump but i think as long as he's president seems to be able to skate around any kind of legal issues at some point maybe he can pardon himself i have no idea.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah well i mean it comes down to this.
Tim Pritlove: General feeling all of us brother's day it's everything,
Tim Pritlove: continent of politics doesn't mean anything it's always more.
Tim Pritlove: Will this protect my life style in general in the republican voter base seems to be to me.
Tim Pritlove: People who only care about donald the classic conservative approach of i don't want to have anything changed i don't want my privileges,
Tim Pritlove: to be there for aviva in and we are endangered by those philadelphia banks now liberals progressives whatever those other people in,
Tim Pritlove: take it away from an interview trump as being somebody who only wants to be praised and their for he does everything to.
Tim Pritlove: Have those people have believe their life is the used to be dear dream is it something that doesn't work that won't work in the end i think but that's why they by into it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes i have a friend is down in new mexico
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end enjoy signing up for trump newsletters just give me an idea how this campaign works he signed up for any kind of trump
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: campaign email social media subscribes he's made it his business to be a trump,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: supporter on paper.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is not actually trump supporter any sense even on his twitter account which is private but he shows us images of the messages that come in
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: in what you see is i mean it some crazy text in my appointment of course it's all things about how bitten is gonna destroy america
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: about how the left wing is gonna use this old man biden as a puppet.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The only way to stop it i mean it starts to sound like you on spotify donald trump is this
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: savior he's going to protect us because our country is under attack again as i said before same thing is said in russia
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: generally speaking russia is under attack by the rest of the world putin help protect russia otherwise we get eaten alive by i don't know
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: outsiders so you know trump's supporters think that their under attack i really think they believe this that's why they so violently in so enthusiastically put themselves.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: On the line or please go vote and stands in counter protest there is this it's emotional it's all emotional,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which is why when i saw you facts or women anyone doesn't investigation the problem is that is facts versus emotions and at least in the united states emotion seem to win.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: People vote based on this emotion including the emotion of i hate this guy.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I hate this other guy i hate this president you know it this is where were at.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No idea with a democracy was that you are an informed,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: public well-educated public would you can get through an education maybe public education idea and media is good point.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: We see the there's a mother force involved in motion and that is a very powerful forested oftentimes the stronger than emotion stronger than fact or education or what is education anyway
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it is zoom call.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah that's not.
Tim Pritlove: Add american weather america's not an exception in this i mean this this has always been the case is just a we have this weird.
Tim Pritlove: This way conference of,
Tim Pritlove: how far technology social media different worlds live gang complicated indiana
Tim Pritlove: the new slow accelerating into something it has always been sad but i think especially,
Tim Pritlove: set the internet is still something that most people are just not used to it they haven't understood the dynamite they haven't understand the dynamics of newspapers for a long time.
Tim Pritlove: These people who you know have this.
Tim Pritlove: Auto matic reaction to odesza headlines in the newspaper so that must be true sweet but.
Tim Pritlove: Let's probably not the moment you should decide on this year think twice check twice whatever.
Tim Pritlove: Internet makes it so complicated because the news keeps keeps crashing in understand to yours pacific belief system that's new and sol.
Tim Pritlove: That's why the shit works so well right now
Tim Pritlove: i'm still rover optimistic that they might be in changes to this sooner or later that something it's going to happen next year but it's in the long run the,
Tim Pritlove: humidity is is going to adopt to its own tools,
Tim Pritlove: but we there yet its probably not going to happen in this election sold this election still,
Tim Pritlove: happening within the same time makes we've seen for years ago.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah figure this out immaturity with the information environment we have like we're still not.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: We don't fully have power over.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Internet router social media where more like the victims or the subject being manipulated of by it.
Tim Pritlove: Not enough people have discovered podcasts of the real savior that's.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: For example that's the biggest statement of today's podcast.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The real savior.
Tim Pritlove: Adult your podcasts is your real savior.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Who is suffer for you.
Tim Pritlove: No
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: We made a loss every year.
Tim Pritlove: Yes we die for yourself.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So yeah the rose again in twenty twenty.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is a sacred year.
Tim Pritlove: Weather prophets man.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No no losses.
Tim Pritlove: Alright so i think that's enough for an on the us election four hours anything you want to add.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No i look i don't for those were interested in the tax returns by the trump
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: presidency before there is a lot more tour there a lot of numbers including what he
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: make an his abroad project send anything interesting read but india i think they're the most important part would be covered about
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: weather not an hour this makes a difference or doesn't so now let's leave it at that.
Tim Pritlove: Let's look at the situation in europe.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah i mean is always many places to look in europe i'm on one corner right now but i really felt like we
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i mean we've seen it to the last few months the last few weeks already we have the situation of refugees living
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: including places like lesbos on the island of lesbos and moriah camp we had the fire the major major fire which destroyed
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the morio camp and display tens of thousands of people and their they are stuck on an island an island where they don't have any place
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: go for a week or more they were living just on the road,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: hi bot when i look at you just like a major road regardless their living on the street out in the open the greek military was has been present trying to stop,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: people from being able to go into town's people are trapt and trapt
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: not much in the greek plan headband and his to build another camp of course the government will say this one will be,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: better than house work people.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Add it'll be safe of course refugees will say first of all the camp we were just in was hell we don't want to live like that anymore a lot of the outcry from refugees has been
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you know what we don't want this we don't want this we dont wanna go to europe anymore send it home
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: at least that's what i said on on signs any of ccr number interviews conducted by a good friend of mine who's been on the island and again even if they want to go home that's not an option so you are a,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: effectively a prisoner on this island where a lot of greek people hate you or just don't want you,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there so the island itself has a population that lose live certainly have been impacted by the presidents of of the people,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: any such it's just break my heart like it's just so disappointing and europa union.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I don't see much different now the initial response i think it was.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Combination with germany was involved i think number other countries that was the will take the unaccompanied teenagers four hundred people so small hungry.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Who their allies these days are but they don't want anyone have a hardline approach to this
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: they put up fences they put a policies baskets say we're not involved any kind of solution and so it seems to me anyway that your opinions does not much on this front you know i think they send
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: food and water their good with sending some money to do projects but not much else in the great government,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: my my heart goes out to them too cuz i don't think they no quit what to do and they're always kind of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what is it called reacting instead of proactively
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: doing something constructive sort of ok what now what now here something here something so i actually in the last week find the news about moriah camp is less visible,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is anyone for one or two weeks are you really could get a lot of information about people that how their doing and i just think this is one of the great tragedies you know what we think about the pandemic and koven more than five years
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: people just
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: pact into a k camp on island and their other places in europe in italy as well there are refugee centers and it's a it's one of these
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: change of humanity in my opinion and i don't don't quite know if i run charge.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: How successful i would be at managing this but still a pretty sure we can do better situation.
Tim Pritlove: Of course we can do better this morning situation is pretty bad,
Tim Pritlove: by it is just a simple for the the bigger problem behind it that's that the european does not have any,
Tim Pritlove: policy on how to deal with general problem of migration,
Tim Pritlove: especially migration for basely asylum secrets for for people who are just a feeling war of living situations there and barrel and and they,
Tim Pritlove: refuse to act on the morio camp robles because they just fear it to be a signal
Tim Pritlove: how you know that now we're open again,
Tim Pritlove: for business and then everybody is going to come put on the one hand there coming anyway because that's not really something people i think about when when they life is a danger.
Tim Pritlove: I'm in with the situation in syria has been bad now for how many years it's this was.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Since twenty eleven.
Tim Pritlove: Yes going on for four four nine years and europa has been incapable off of of dealing with the situation i mean i know that's very complicated to deal with a particular situation in syria
Tim Pritlove: for sure the other ways to deal with it in terms of the people playing the country so,
Tim Pritlove: that's why that needs to suffer that the main problem i have with it anywhere talking about thirteen thousand people,
Tim Pritlove: what is busy nothing if you spread them out over europe but no country is really,
Tim Pritlove: ready to do the first move here and if you look at the situation in germany which is pretty upset because you have,
Tim Pritlove: the fbi so many cities ballin been one of them hamburg
Tim Pritlove: where the local government was pretty open on set like yeah no problem bring over like a few hundred to us you know where were taking them.
Tim Pritlove: Edit the federal government that keeps refusing to actually act on this,
Tim Pritlove: how because they are saying well that needs to be european solution another day just want two take the bottom of all of us other countries don't.
Tim Pritlove: End of course i mean i know why they doing it specially in germany that's why is because,
Tim Pritlove: the shake that this twenty fifteen situation in germany.
Tim Pritlove: Which lettuce rise of the planet of the apes party and so they just don't wanna repeat it but i don't really think that that's the way they should do with it.
Tim Pritlove: Does the same house accepting that this is a problem instead of showing that's not.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean it's it's so many elements of this also interesting complicated fast living you know i've known people who work with refugees here in portugal.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Add specially twenty fifteen time warp portugal token i don't know a couple hundred
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm i'm saying every small amount but ok it's portugal and what i was told was for many refugees that lived here they had housing
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: refugee center at least the beginning but things are so difficult the stephen they got to start with so small and when they did find
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: small employment the small here that many people thought this is i need to get somewhere better.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No that's interesting things with your up as well it's amazing in many ways like germany is the shining example of what people want to go.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I'm not saying they won't go anywhere else but it's.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I am in all of it the way people in a week or acropolis now stories of america everybody wants to go to heaven live there still people out there that look to america sort of i want to go to the united states in true life but is impressive.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Sometimes sad to see the interviews with refugees in this camp for five years that learn german and it never been to germany that really cid germany as this place where life could be better i mean
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's amazing how that happened in these images that inspire people,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: almost to the detriment to put their lives at risk cabin watching this summer and i'm sure menu few people,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: out there have is well they have been the new stories of people has they have for years crossing from friends to the uk.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Any i guess its been a pretty good summer for being able to try that as a great risk always and you know it in the uk it's around the government anyway and says.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No people you must know they're shock that all these people are coming across the channel cuz are not in europe anymore but you know these places have these.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Choose.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Images around the world as beacons you know where you can go where life is better with you of a chance no matter what happens these began survivor no better see me later how,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: hashtag the risk is it so hard about humidity like you risk it all,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for this and i don't know you know sometimes when i look at the european union if they did do a response where indeed portugal take her people i don't know if if you know refugees would go.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok good no no i want to make a better life also but indeed with the situation on maria is so bad that you could.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Maybe say no more visitation we'll go anywhere but here which is seemingly what what happened including i'll go back to my home country things are.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Dangerous terrible.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No so this is just i don't know anything just doesn't seem like any new solution is coming it's the same old song people in camp,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: living in the netherlands even being here in portugal i don't know that people want to know,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: again emotions it's easier not to get emotional about something if i don't think about it and if i don't have to look at it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So you park people in greece on an island and don't think about it,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for five to ten years it's strange thing about what's possible with people like you can just not think about it we'll be okay cause if we really thought about it,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: every day we won't be able to live with it we would have to do something to improve the situation.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Set an r silence in much of your opinion in my opinion.
Tim Pritlove: Yes i just used my google earth to just have a look at this cam and.
Tim Pritlove: I was surprised easy to find the words close to maria of course but it's pixelated.
Tim Pritlove: You can't look at the camp from google earth the hole area is expected as it was a military this side.
Tim Pritlove: So this is not something that google has decided to do that something that gorilla summer love.
Tim Pritlove: Force to do or has a great to do on request because of some usually military interested yes so it's so bad.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah that says something too real.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah so i have nothing particularly new for news of the world on this issue i just think it's one of those things the least we can do is
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: keep an eye out for information from their i still appreciate when reporters or able to go which is very difficult because
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: again the greek military under orders i guess not open to people coming,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: reporters wherever your from you're not welcome and my girlfriend all of coons as i had a hard time there often would say i'm in european citizen but i'm not allowed here in europe
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i can't get into this part of europe you know nothing here for me to see they won't let me but he did manage to speak with people and i still appreciate that reporters,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: dare to go there or that even that media organizations will support their journalists to go there you don't have to be like a freelancer on your own
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: because it's it's dangerous to go alone that
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you're not necessarily protected from the military or whatever new policies the government comes up there for people trying to talk to refugees so i appreciate the journalist that are out there still focusing on this
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is all we have to get information in there are people of course and their trying to communicate i think but i don't hear from a lot of refugees out there
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: camps maybe i should see more sources.
Tim Pritlove: So let's have a look at the corona virus situation in the world news device has a great job on this one too.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah past two hundred thousand did this just passed week and that is i think the highest total for a country.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: In the world i don't know where i saw that but i see that recently added u2 hundred thousand far beyond for example
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: when the us president back in february march second if it becomes
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: one hundred thousand nineteen surprise it will never reaching out not to get too much into his predictions by where way beyond with the us government.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Projected based on the measures they were
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: taking and i think the big news timer you can tell me for for their certainly in berlin germany i know the big news back in amsterdam is that there is a big spike going on,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we see in the uk also announce taylor measures and i tell you what.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What mark's would all remember september august september twenty twenty four it's actually the time where for me its the first time that now friends of mine that i tend to spend my time with a normal normal years actually have it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That wasn't the case earlier this year it was always a friend of a friend of a friend of parent or grandparent now it's just,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: people between two thousand forty the suddenly come up with corona and go to the hospital but.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Tested a nice day home and this is the new.
Tim Pritlove: It is just a correct on the numbers immediately reported the us has the words numbers
Tim Pritlove: that's the usually the case if you just look at the the totals and not relating it tools the number of people actually living in the country so that's likely changes it so you can say
Tim Pritlove: for instance that the worst hit when i don't really don't have a full less than just looked at a few
Tim Pritlove: other countries that have been also it pretty bad souls for instance peru has more death punch capitol then
Tim Pritlove: the us i guess we all agree that they should also be a factor,
Tim Pritlove: apply to that formula that summer hall point to know.
Tim Pritlove: The quality of the er technology involved in the medical system and someone you know so you expect us to be much lower.
Tim Pritlove: What south american states which is not the kids also spain in brazil also update,
Tim Pritlove: molest close by molesta on the same level right now if you look at the total death so far united states united kingdom,
Tim Pritlove: you know later on italy,
Tim Pritlove: mexico and twuan so sings quiet in spain some european countries are,
Tim Pritlove: have also not managed this situation well they might be other factors in it comes to.
Tim Pritlove: That's right now just medical explanations two but it's obvious that us still samjhawan capable of the setting up a plan and sam truth for the uk and summer house pain also good cardon.
Tim Pritlove: Problems pretty happy that the situation in germany has it wasn't like this.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok i did not know that i know i can tell you about look at these things probably existing every country weather not we pay attention but it has come to my attention in the netherlands.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Having been understand form it's not really lockdown but you know.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Lockdown let's say for the four five months until businesses were sort of opened again released restaurants in certain places open again in june,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there has been this movement mostly social media wise of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: famous people i wanna say influencer artists who use the hashtag i'm not in love i'm out
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: count me out and it's been a about,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't want to take part in the government's measures they say things like free the people in english they say this they say,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the government needs to be rained in under control because their measures have been out of control and it's this weird trends but it's also for me not surprising because,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: especially young people who haven't felt the impact of corona and for into,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what you name it performances bars and pubs in clubs that india are having trouble in terms of being able to do their thing to earn a living and so forth there there now coming out in large numbers and kind of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: getting a following of people who are just using catchphrases to say i'm out on this whole,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: coronavirus things and it's it's created a big argument debate on the national level in the netherlands but.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: For me a reflex something that have kind of known about quietly in the country in our prime mentioned in the last program that there a lot of people in.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Even a place that seems so practical as a netherlands not really into a lot of the measures not necessarily keeping
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: these practices for example masks no way the government doesn't even strongly push for masks but not doing it distancing not touching one another,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: if you're remotely known to one another your friends people are touching each other
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: perfectly is the always did hurt people look at the needless to say no but there's a practicality they're not going inside their outside was better,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: could be the case but i definitely see this resistance and now we have the spice going on in the netherlands and in belgium
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: any you know it neil young people who are contracting the virus or spreading the virus
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end it just a weird day i consider it a sort of privileged it's it's just that you haven't been affected and you think you're invincible or at least you been told that
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: get it your gonna be fine and we're seeing the start of results of that i am in portugal since week now,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: mom and it's such a different scene i mean i'm not in the capitol which has higher numbers but people are so cautious masks everywhere
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i can't go anywhere without someone insisting that slaughter my hands and jill every every time i go in any kind of a shopping or whatever place.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: This country doesn't even have the numbers or like outside of the capitol that that country does it never ends does with that yet people are just first love really scared ok,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: any other things there's a tradition in portugal of being very respectful of whitney medical officials say it's almost old fashioned like.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I don't study medicine i don't like the doctor said to do i'm gonna do it and that's very predominate here in portugal.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So weird time in the coronavirus kinda like a little push back after maybe being cooperative for
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: sixty seven months in the netherlands i mean us we've seen push back since the beginning it's just weird to see where behavior collective behavior goes over the next.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Few months two years i don't know what to say but the next time coming up what people do what people demand.
Tim Pritlove: Yes is interesting to see how people are getting used to the situation in the weird ways
Tim Pritlove: no expected everybody else focus on on doing the right thing avoiding the disease put some how people are just tired of an hour.
Tim Pritlove: Changing the way of life and just want to get back in seem to feel better just by noriega.
Tim Pritlove: The situation some feeling at under where you can.
Tim Pritlove: You could be hit by a bus secret die from whatever you know is coming anyway look at the numbers that they might be an interesting appointment with july it's a comparison to things that only effect you
Tim Pritlove: you could die from break falling down.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah that could happen but if it happens is only you not passing along the break to everybody standing around you
Tim Pritlove: add some the weird part that some people are so seem to,
Tim Pritlove: put away the south today they might be some how responsible for other people and that's that's mi problema help with this kind of behavior.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah it's interesting thing when you compared to all the other risk sad life shirt what is exactly like this is more complicated than that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: And so i don't know a lot of people are betting surely united states on a vaccine and vaccine but.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: If there's no vaccine even if there were how long will that take for everybody to get it.
Tim Pritlove: How many people would actually take it i mean there's also this crazy the vaccines kill you like everything kills you slowly nothing else.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I took a flight to get here from from amsterdam that to three hours flight.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I chose another promote cause we don't do ads on this show that i did choose take care as a,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: citizen or sorry resident of the netherlands i trust call him and it felt like this is an airline that was gonna be more cautious they say a low cost airline and
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you're on the plane they do do their best to put a a s o three hundred and three seats on each side and they do their best leave the city in between people empty.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Even myself in my girlfriend sleep between us was empty but still you're on a plane,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i mean the logistics are ridiculous white wine supposed to be a mask on the whole time and you do that when you eat your complimentary sandwich you can take off your mask my girlfriend,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: let's not eat sandwiches and everybody else does this is the biggest strategy label to come up with so i just fine understand there there measures the airport saw,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so there's lots of space it's not crowded i know it's an advantage there's less travel or less than bout it certainly helps because
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: airports are colors so you can walk through without bumping into anyone without getting very close to people which is a great thing.
Tim Pritlove: No wait a l i e n s anymore and so.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No no i found at least amsterdam has the advantage will see how to listen does it they even send you to different security points
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: in an effort to bell biv devoe pretty good anyway but they won't be any lines or if there is online is very short so i found it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Traveling through such a high risk places in airport was remarkably ok
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: put the planet self for the way society is designed shaped this industry it's not an object
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which you can actually keep distance from people you know that person i still right behind your head through that seeb
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: really close to each other so it's weird science pretend like you can actually guarantee anything on this on this in that contact.
Tim Pritlove: On the other hand the the air conditioning systems on planes perfectly suited the problem attend because the way it is designed in airplanes actually helps with the situation lot
Tim Pritlove: hey portal sucked from the bath so the afloat is going from below,
Tim Pritlove: what so it's more verticals distribution and that makes.
Tim Pritlove: Turn sense that not many if any reports of people,
Tim Pritlove: becoming infected on a normal flight.
Tim Pritlove: After after this situation itself became a parent have been think that have been reported on some cases where.
Tim Pritlove: People got infected within the cruel so people who are have been acting together closely it might not be the biggest problem we have apart from plans being a problem.
Tim Pritlove: What other reasons.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Have you been on any public transport in the last seven eight.
Tim Pritlove: Yes i have i have,
Tim Pritlove: train ride one am but i have decided to keep it down as much as i cancel all the tourist i'm doing right now i do by car.
Tim Pritlove: The best solution for the environment but probably the best solution.
Tim Pritlove: For me it's pretty annoying to take longer around by car but.
Tim Pritlove: So thats thats my decision father situation at hand
Tim Pritlove: i'm turn this to change by the problem is as long as this mask thing isn't probably unforced in trains i'm driving the crown.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: You can take a train in germany and not wear mask.
Tim Pritlove: No it's just the weather suppose to wear one to the question is will people,
Tim Pritlove: weird mask where is that song where am i some house somewhere on your body but not the way it supposed to be and.
Tim Pritlove: It's a matter of force men personality i think these people also pretty annoyed working out on the train by those people about this situation,
Tim Pritlove: also german train's our wedding on for the act not working series every now and then usually in summer.
Tim Pritlove: Happy a big problem now and then autumn were injured i would say.
Tim Pritlove: It's not very super dangerous it's just you have to adjust your.
Tim Pritlove: You're a travel profile cording little what you think is ride for you.
Tim Pritlove: Just employed and having my own office where are mostly walk alone.
Tim Pritlove: Has made it rather simple for me but i do interviews i travel alot
Tim Pritlove: until used to be a problem to make new appointments now this is kind of walking again so i decided to do whenever i do it tour.
Tim Pritlove: I'm going to have two or three interviews on a roll i do cover test before yes.
Tim Pritlove: Set at least i can point them to dino tested.
Tim Pritlove: I can't you know if shore you that i haven't been infected by somebody running around on the streets but just like.
Tim Pritlove: Pretty unlikely but this is a test and madness just a part of my expenses forward.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That makes me think that for you as a private citizen getting a test is something that is not not too difficult.
Tim Pritlove: Where you can just order one tasked on amazon.
Tim Pritlove: Yes yourself.
Tim Pritlove: Hey portal this thing you put in your mouth out you call him.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Swap the consuela.
Tim Pritlove: Swap so you just music yourself into a closure and then somebody comes around get the bag.
Tim Pritlove: I see the results online there's been redone it that way after it once.
Tim Pritlove: What's the.
Tim Pritlove: Has arrived the test senter than their pretty quick so that's like less than twelve hours the problem is one thousand like that they should get your sample.
Tim Pritlove: Then tell you the next time slade last kiss it was like next day and then it took another night to arrive soul
Tim Pritlove: from taking the actual test and having a the the results being reported to me the world close to two days that
Tim Pritlove: pause by which is not ideal for my situation so i'm trying to find out what they the best
Tim Pritlove: timing is in this a max b capable to reducing this to a day which would be very helpful but that's just my program.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Very impressive very considerate of you for your for your guests hay for your favorite.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah i have to tell them like here i want i want to be in a room with you for two hours talking loudly,
Tim Pritlove: you can make these times but i like i'm going to be,
Tim Pritlove: i'm showing you my test before which will smallest recent them thanks.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Show you tests.
Tim Pritlove: I haven't asked for a test yet.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What's the future of podcasting.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Send somebody on microphone and audio interface and a test kit.
Tim Pritlove: Yes
Tim Pritlove: will try to do this remote sings but it's alright complicated to arrange it works for people who you know people are there
Tim Pritlove: experience distance stuff that again karra much about the quality in awesome
Tim Pritlove: able to look into the eyes of the people i talk to just make sure they know how much i love them.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes stop staring at me no camera.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What is very interesting no time i like it like getting this inside think people will if they didn't already know i think they like it in this inside i do all my rain reviews remotely and i have not done yet covet tasks i just always in my heart to get one
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play ufo open my eyes list if i love in germany what was possible.
Tim Pritlove: I'm not sure if this service access in the netherlands bonus think it's.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is interesting because everybody i know that wants and it's taking tests today after go to this bike through tests service which sound is awesome but it's actually not that great you've to parker biking to go into a building
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's a very complicated actually.
Tim Pritlove: Let me see weather it is from the netherlands.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Alright i'll follow you linkletter.
Tim Pritlove: Right.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Maybe maybe as possible because everybody amsterdam just pay attention do with the local government says.
Tim Pritlove: It's also much cheaper than going to the doctor actually.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok i'm in for this.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Let me some tests alright well with covered r big supreme court with covered.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The trump latest trump stuff talk to be about the refugee situation in europe and we updated the covered followers and so that i think is our news for this,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: week good job everyone.
Tim Pritlove: How many two weeks.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah.
Tim Pritlove: I think getting closer to the election we're going to speed up production a bit but not making any promises right now.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I'm hiding out here in portugal until mid october two to take care of family properties that otherwise on their own so somebody had to common i had the ability to be here and it looks like i can do this show pretty well from here.
Tim Pritlove: Alright let's go.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So let's see appreciate all the tweets and all the different forms of feedback by all means keep them coming will i think i'll talk to you next time right.
Tim Pritlove: Yes especially regarding the feedback especially would like to know what you like to discuss regarding the us election.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah.
Tim Pritlove: News is like general a thing that the prodigy really helpful to foxing because is so much going on that you are always have to somo pick something that's most interesting you can help with that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Alright alright so until next time thanks for listening goodbye.
Tim Pritlove: Yes goodbye.