Tim Pritlove: Hello hello when you hear the roots it's time for news of the world.
Tim Pritlove: You're compact diary of things that happened in my tappin in the future and it's all about one thing that scaring everybody on this planet right now.
Tim Pritlove: Skip that's really this the halloween election i'm scared hello mark.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Hello hello tim.
Tim Pritlove: Yes you're back in amsterdam.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I am i traveled on an airplane for the second time during the pandemic for me and it went through to airport again.
Tim Pritlove: How was it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Add airport fantastic these days cause that's just not many people there,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: airplanes are another story their tiny or at least for the current space we all need their really tiny and their worrying in terms of the masks and touching and it's,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that's my sound my spooky halloween airplane travel during corona the same who.
Tim Pritlove: Scary i can't get any more than this so hot spot.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I came home to a partial lockdown which she looks like fun lockdown outside i'm trying only to go out for food and not for any sort of other activities.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Exercise probably should be on my list but i just got home so what worry about that later.
Tim Pritlove: Yes if i look at the numbers the avalanches not doing very well.
Tim Pritlove: Close to two francis numbers going slightly down bad lot worse than germany and germany is not doing good.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah and belgium has announced stay a piano locked out a locked in but like a strict lockdown this weekend against the holiday weekend i don't have this works with holidays children.
Tim Pritlove: It's about time because the the burden numbers are disaster again i mean they have.
Tim Pritlove: Everybody is summer point into the us and uk other countries but it's always been bells on that was hit the hardest.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah that's true.
Tim Pritlove: Most until i don't really understand,
Tim Pritlove: what the reason for this is obviously the country keep this virus under control almost nobody dust in your pocket now.
Tim Pritlove: Add a country is also doing pretty by electric republic now song.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Looking around here and amsterdam is the how people are,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: caring themselves during the luck pusher lockdown hotspot time and small differences that mean
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there are more masks when you go in places that are more signs about only one or two people allowed inside but at the same time
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: many people without masks many it doesn't even seem like a political statement its just kind of a i didn't think of it it's still still a thing.
Tim Pritlove: How many just started two or four week lockdown now.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Wow.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah excluding schools excluding most of business related stuff but everything.
Tim Pritlove: Any kind of b legit activities busy shutdown basked apps,
Tim Pritlove: everything is going to close next monday and i guess i think i think it should go on for four weeks if it should have significant impact.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah yeah wonder how long how long before you start to see results left portugal there was an announcement
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i guess because i the holiday some kind of holiday weekend that you aren't allowed to leave your municipality without a pressing
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: need iheartradio central job family member and that was only the last three days so.
Tim Pritlove: Set volume to anything i mean if you wanna how long this shit take at least you have to wait at least two weeks to see any kind of change.
Tim Pritlove: Add that's just turning around the train and then you'll need another two weeks.
Tim Pritlove: If you're doing fine tune to get the dynamics down to,
Tim Pritlove: no value no below one and you could probably even extended soul,
Tim Pritlove: basically i think we're most done with this year.
Tim Pritlove: I think twenty twenty is mostly all over and us only a single thing that everybody wants from this year.
Tim Pritlove: What's happening next week and that's what were talking about now.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Election you know when it gets this close it's very hard because we this whole campaign starts like two years before the actual election in the united states and then we are days away,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: from the presidential election the united states senate that is included election and,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: this is the big final revolving placating for and then some cases
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we really wanna get this over with i think tired i'm tired of polls tim i don't look at them today show.
Tim Pritlove: Yes everybody else tired of everything meant to be complete the house see some houses also gang related but not that anybody expecting any major changed that at least that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So yeah tuesday is the day of memory serves that's when i love you to vote when i was a resident of the united states long long ago but indeed where in the year of the early voting and i've early voted as reported to you
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: on the previous show i can confirm that my i sent the proof my vote via mail whatever good that does
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i did check in with a few friends of mine and friends that are american soldier other countries and it's all very
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: different depending on what state your voting in weather not you can do it via email with her not you need to send something by post malone so anybody who's been watching the headlines
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: any major media will have seen some kind of headline the last week or two
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: record numbers early voting i mean it make sense there's recording hoopers of early voting for two reasons let's say i'll start with the coronavirus many people are not going
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: two the pools there's even think that was a lack of color workers since there usually the older people of society.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Add of course many states even expanded the possibility two vote by mail so of course
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for the wire record numbers well there's something about this donald trump that gets people motivated
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add so maybe this could also be a reason that other people are very motivated to vote for the man or people are very voted motivated vote
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add the man out also record numbers everyone keeps reporting and saying look at that butt something.
Tim Pritlove: Yes looking like looking at the elections from the proud of you of a german it's so hot that this is happening on it on a tuesday.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: End that it's not a public holiday or anything like this people usually have to work right.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes correct you go to the polls maybe after work yeah yeah
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that's right that's not a national holiday it's not the only country like that but it's one of the few yes i don't know what it is about voting that the united states has not wanted well
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that is maybe too many people to vote the argument,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: somehow like you know if you been watching social media dear listeners i'm sure you seen people say anything but one of them get out and vote,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: vote vote part of that is this idea that the more people that vote,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the more more your heart the government is representation of other people but i think there's also this idea that,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: more voters is better for biden,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end better for democrats less people being able to vote seems to work out better for republicans i don't have any data supports in front of me many many experts and wise people have,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: set this sings one way or another over the years so effect there's record voting,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: mike everything is might right now might in the cade advantage for democrat candidates on all levels,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: right.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah numbers are really breaking all the rules words i mean after justin a few florida when it comes to yung people voting.
Tim Pritlove: I'd like eight thousand fourteen.
Tim Pritlove: Like in two thousand sixteen was like in the six digits.
Tim Pritlove: Is pretty impressive but we all that we have left to be very careful individuation.
Tim Pritlove: Hope.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean because for years.
Tim Pritlove: Hope my be ok expectations for being.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok yeah.
Tim Pritlove: How do you have any.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No i mean ready for anything that's that's my i think that's my attitude
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: anything is possible in which is impressive in a world are so many things seem like it's a done deal you can't win it's already been decided but indeed when it comes to this and maybe some previous elections.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Morris possible that i probably realized many many years ago it's just don't know you just because i mean if you look at this on this program and it's the question how do you,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: right what are you using tu pull people and their been lots of jokes that example that you use landlines
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: right if you pull exclusively if you did losing landlines than you are getting very cute
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: population maybe some other method but there's always these you know how is the pull conducted what's the margin of error
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end sally we don't know that that's in small print after really read into it but what you see is the headline of the pool and we continue to see that i mean i've really had it
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: headlines from respected newspapers because they all these days say
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: by dean ahead by the head bitten has in a ten point five point and what for years ago talk to me
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is these things could be completely wrong and work,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: especially when i'm a man name trump is involved in i think he really just defies logic so often.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Name your criteria fail businesses shouldn't you should be able to continue and say your success,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: reasons why this mentioned not have succeeded and yet has
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's not so even are we see all these polls that were make you feel good,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: some of us ok bye is in the lead it should be good to be in the lead i think that there is a natural and logical fear based on experience among other things that says,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: this is not a done deal.
Tim Pritlove: Have you.
Tim Pritlove: Call your friends have you got did you get in contact with with other experts is there anything,
Tim Pritlove: nice outside of the united states and cam people watching from abroad make an impact year.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So for example netherlands,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: community of several hundred people and smeyeul americans right in this american segment,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: out in the world overtime and we all talk right we have a refund this year have a group,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: on chat so that we can coordinate does anyone many questions did you helping each other
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what are you trying to figure out about the americans abroad if we can make a difference.
Tim Pritlove: No i mean absentia many americans on podcasts not talking to everybody is like vote also white ones you voted call your friends to vote.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes ok ok.
Tim Pritlove: So not only addressing it single person but actually making sure that all your pierce actually doing the same thing so i wonder if there's something going on.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes i'm not really a big,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: send i don't do that i don't do i do not bother people about voting honestly i think it's your business i think not voting this is not gonna be very popular i think not voting is a legitimate action,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add the problem is nobody made me know that you are doing it has part of some kind of prostration is part of some statement or you just didn't but i think that not voting i wish you loved me or sorry if we are citizens of a country where you could vote blank
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: say something so that is registered many countries have that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: We have that new us,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you got a vote you got a vote like me having just said i don't think you have to vote will anger a lot of people that americans are not americans i get it i'm just telling you i,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think it's also right now to vote i think it's sometimes get annoyed with the what it is become kind of this is how you're a good person,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: vote and if you don't you a bad person and i i don't i don't want to share i don't share that opinion honestly but i am
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: very weird person so most people say no you gotta voted that's what you get these app groups that's why indian people call each other if we're gets out at someone didn't vote you might get hate mail.
Tim Pritlove: I mean are these people were that it's not about the us alone this time.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No i mean americans will appreciated even in the country will appreciate the fact the whole world is embarrassed confused.
Tim Pritlove: Will be beyond embarrassed.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah so they no.
Tim Pritlove: Set a year already passed angry and can only get south from there.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah that since i can understand someone being angry with even just meet specifically saying it's all right not a voting people like but i am dreaming and i don't even get a choice notify like i get it i get it it's really loud situation this american nation
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't think the average american thinks about their theyre there friends in other countries saying it all,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i gotta also do this because they need us it's a great point because it does effect so many people i need bitten in his decent democrat would
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i just watch the interview on sixty minutes with by alizzz confused
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: are your friends another countries are walking away from us like i don't know we can't really on these people interesting,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: but but in the end the selections continue to come back to the whole idea of america american exceptionalism i mean look how many candidates regardless what level will say this is the greatest country in the world,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we are the hardest working where the most clever on the one you can say these are just cliche it's no big deal but i think a country that,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: leave this cliches is insecure and find it annoying appreciated country that will say were not the best.
Tim Pritlove: Definitely the hardest working three jobs justice survive.
Tim Pritlove: No doubt about that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: I think this time this so much is it safe because i mean maybe maybe that's just my personal viewpoint but it's also a feeling i have for i say jump in the least if not your open total it's.
Tim Pritlove: Is the americans are unable to get rid of this disaster there unable to stabilize their country.
Tim Pritlove: You're just going to walk away i'm in this time for real because they,
Tim Pritlove: can no longer trust this is like nothing to put your money on anymore and i think we're already pass the the point of
Tim Pritlove: will you could say that guy just wait for me years and then.
Tim Pritlove: No this is going to be better desai has already struck and we could just can't take it anymore and this is going to road back a lot of,
Tim Pritlove: put things that have happened in the last decade and an unexpected the end of the west this time.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Absolutely america
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is not doesn't matter who selected america's not a country you can rely on world as a leader as innovative
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no you can't it happens sometimes there certainly pockets examples there kinds of good things but,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's not it's not even if.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Even if biden wins in the world get into the senate the moment in four years you don't know what's coming next,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: and you don't even know if it's gonna come from the republican party,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is it gonna come from another party is gonna come from the democrats really don't know i don't think you can rely on the country world power decline educational system that is,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i need you know some place some parts are nice some parts to work at all i know what this education is the people are getting.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So i don't think you can rely on the us no matter what happens next week.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I think it's important in away trump has pushed this forward but it's it's been a long time coming from i'm in the gulf war in two thousand three.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is it clear you cannot really in the united states it is not an enlightened country anymore not not that kinda girl,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: many others basically and the suffers on the same problems we all do now germany netherlands with this sort of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: set the pride and ignore i see it here in the netherlands is a certain pride in we don't care about the science we don't,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we don't care about helping everyone we help ourselves we exist in germany too,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: and so america is in the same rut accepted it's bigger and it's always been louder and it had a different position i guess.
Tim Pritlove: Set the smaller stronger.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah you can't escape.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No and then there for my heart goes out to all of us that are in the united states but we live in their shadow my god you know it getting letters about my bank account in in europe head case the american discovered i'm here,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add for years i didn't i didn't mentioned much that i was living here.
Tim Pritlove: I'm going to be so angry of trump gets reelected.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I think i think everyone has to be prepared and i think you really are deep down you're prepared,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i have friends who have made kind of serious statements about if trump is related ranges from a leave the country.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Which i would say you show thought about that for years ago anyway but ok for years later ok second term but even have friends to talk about harming themselves,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: if trump wins rather than life three four more years and it it worries me now you don't say that,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which is good but i think that people need to be prepared and need to not rest their hope for the world in the future on what happened this election really like you we cannot look to these people,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: they are not in a weather is trevor byron we gotta be able to.
Tim Pritlove: No i mean it's not not here it's not done looking for a savior here and i know that bitten isn't isn't that just exchanging one person or an administration alone,
Tim Pritlove: help thanks but it's also
Tim Pritlove: abiding win or trump last would also give significant signals also two countries like uk.
Tim Pritlove: How angry poland you know that the the populism just gets you so just not very far.
Tim Pritlove: Add theresa point listen into it some sooner or later and that's pretty what.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I know it's heartbreaking it's is.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Any idea that that this is so much more powerful than this and that they win and then,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the carry on it no i was watching this sixty minutes interview with trump is sitting there and i don't know why but they do these closeups are you really look at this man's face and you hear every word he says and,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: honestly like i can't stand it this man keeps.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Thanks that he is great and he in his world view is on one point ask him the interview let's be still ask,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: do you think what is it about people that vote for you were that i love you what's the profile and he says i'm gonna things it's people who love this country,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which implies that if you don't vote for trump you hate this country it's silly like why can't we be friends this man could win has won and could win again definitely drive me crazy i'm not saying i don't,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: really dislike what happened but i think what's really hard and i'm always,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: try to just embrace the truth is that no matter what happens,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: trump supporters never mind trump supporters of ideas that trump has still on top of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: they will continue to exist i'll be back i don't know if it in four eight years but they will be back in different forms and that hurts that sad
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end this nothing right now in on the mediate moment that's gonna really change that but you write election wedding certainly
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: matters and send the signal and i hear you in terms of like if he didn't want you feel better.
Tim Pritlove: Can you give me some zapp contacts on on this sixty minutes interview format
Tim Pritlove: how many that's a rack popular is singing it seems to be the discount of interviews have some kind of significant some part of the country year was it for which is this doesn't do anything what is it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Sixty minutes is on cbs which is a commercial network like many commercials networks you know it's long and decline in terms of popularity what keeps you up at night
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end sixty minutes has always benefited from the few things one they're actually journalists working at sixty minutes and actually take time to take an hour
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: sixty minutes and they sort of hardtalk for for the fans of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: british journalism but it's it's your supposed to be able to ask hard questions and spend more time it comes on after,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: american football finishes on sunday at least the regular time games are still night game.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What other channels this is always significant because of you watch football as millions do,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: towards the end of midway through the keep saying sixty minutes coming up next i'm not saying that sixty minutes is powered by football watchers but that's one source it has the financial support of that network
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which is significant it's not over liberal project but these days as you know journalism that involves investigation,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is labeled a liberal project so there we go sixty minutes i guess not liberal trump certainly has astronaut in,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: and so there's a tradition that the week before the election the presidential candidates in the vice president of the presidential candidates they all get interviewed
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: interview by different members of this stuff you know one of them a anderson cooper is on the stuff we did interview any these candidates this time.
Tim Pritlove: He usually on cnn.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That's right he is so it's kind of like getting an award that of a job like he is on cnn he's respected is done well,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: and then he's able to also on weekends sixty minutes for me it's a sign of a journalist that has sort of at least for television been given a like a high fighting award there we go,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for your hard work here now member of sixty minutes not the eighteen of television journalism so.
Tim Pritlove: Yes good.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah yeah and unlike maybe some of the journalists he i think he's been pretty
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: overt of not not being a big fan of the current administration i don't think i hate that anyway so what also matters in sixty minutes is your age,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: how many years have been there and at this point leslie stahl probably the most senior member,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: unless scott kelly has a lot of surgery which bradley has but.
Tim Pritlove: Let's see if he was.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: She did the interview with trump and pence,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think laura o'donnell and her last name is donald she's more to me on sixty minutes she did and biden
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the reason this got a lot of attention this time around because this does happened every for years but i got a lot of attention be closed trump walked out.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Add when he walked out he said that she was she's being she's asking difficult questions she's asking she's being fade out other stuff.
Tim Pritlove: She's a woman.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I didn't say that.
Tim Pritlove: No
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Unlike.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: He's biggest thing,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is that his many big things but what is that vixen doesn't get ask if difficult questions and it is actually a decent point,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: but the way he brings up all the time and the way it just gets lost in the whole on all the noise because interesting if you watch this interview
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play then again by dnce not the president and biden hasn't been the president during what's been going on the last four years so it away like it
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what trump doesn't like so cold hard questions and it's a very hot thing because
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is pretty standard even for the climbing journalism to still have some questions you don't answer them anyway but trump has a policy if i don't like the question their bad questions right so that happened
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: add he walked out i don't remember somewhere around the discussion of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it was it was piling on because she had asked you can ask questions at one point she said you know you having these big rallies and of course i said there the biggest
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: never seen fine i heard their smaller but ok.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: And he says but people don't wear masks don't you think for someone write coronavirus that you would be encouraging them to actually put on mask this is a weird
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: am i being weird questions anyway the man says listen i'm not have anything against masks
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i tell people to wear masks we give out mask that rallies and she says without wearing them and he says
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't understand why this is the biggest,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: question for this guy because this guy deserves much many harder questions this is the stuff nothing,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is it hot.
Tim Pritlove: Does not that we have any expectations to get anything from him in and such an interview except for us him you know living room early that's what we got.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: You got like fifteen minutes of trump if you can hear the lacs and then he walked out he
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what was the last thing she remembers having interviewed him before
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i guess maybe it was before he ran the first timer as he was running for his first term hopeless last she and him something about why do we call it fake news and he said them
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: when she brought up with that was interesting i call it fake news so i discredit you as much as possible and so that when you say something bad about me nobody believed you anyway
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: she said that she said she said in your words and he goes no i just call you fake because your fake and bad wolves words.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Against it doesn't work but.
Tim Pritlove: What kind of work seventy depends on how people actually listening to this content.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Play kame in immediately after by the way set right in the chair and her first questions him was what just happened.
Tim Pritlove: No
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: End of ten seconds who is a robot some kind of president trump has very strong opinions focus on the campaign.
Tim Pritlove: Is the biggest suspect.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: He is he has a certain smoothness to him that is disturbing and i'm not saying it's appealing i'm saying.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: He can do a fifteen minute interview and say nothing but you're going what did you say something,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: like it's i found watch the interview is short actually and i found it on comfortably easy for him to say nothing,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i mean more traditional scares me a little the politician that people look too like well he had this important job so you must be good republican's my really around him and i wonder,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: how far you can go but anyway that was the sixty minutes bitten came on.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Pretty good for a minute.
Tim Pritlove: So what was interesting about her.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Hurry review for slushii she left a lot maybe we do that lot at the questions i mean.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What is say that.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So she left a lot i guess what else can you do but i wish she wouldn't i will i wish she wouldn't cause i think you don't realize when you being recorded if you keep leaving me through answers it
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: destructing from your answers actually but what is significant me and we have touched on,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you heard this argument trump makes that bitten is trojan horse for radical socialists you insert your label.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So the journalists says loro donald says,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: are you are you a socialist are you up radical and she loves again unfortunate come alive,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what am i am i don't i'm not in any of those labels that he throws on me i refuse them i am a stone of us our daughter of an indian
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: women i am a child of immigrants i am a black woman and so she brought up all these life,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: things about her which is fine but what she's very careful,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is it painful she never says of alma progressive she will they asked about healthcare it weather not enough push,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: in her time if she had a chance would she tell by we should have healthcare for all and she she says no i'm following joe's plan on i believe in joe's plant,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: bugs me about camila here and that's simply the wishes of believe it or not two progressive i wish she would just say it
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's not joe's plan but if i could i would feel nothing,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: being seen as radical of being scenes progressive don't wanna be tied to ac or bernie their camila.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: You see her dancing to get away from it and is disappointing cuz.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean the great raid weinstein says healthcare for all is no longer a democrat thing a lot of people want this y be scared of it but they won't this kind of conservative voters that no longer wants to go for trump.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: But needs to hear conservative stuff and joe budden is a cocomelon i mean i was watching a documentary about his life
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: turn on planet policies in his life where he was kinda progressive that wasn't me shifts with with wind within the democratic umbrella but still
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: democratic party umbrella.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah i watched interview with alexandria ocasio-cortez between call.
Tim Pritlove: Which find the most brilliant politician.
Tim Pritlove: For listen to america i mean she's just fantastic amazing person,
Tim Pritlove: who was also,
Tim Pritlove: pushing her will not that hard but you know i'm not quite remember what the question was busy was all about like the progressive disappointed by
Tim Pritlove: you know having by nezza candidate because it doesn't really represent.
Tim Pritlove: The values of progressive liberal whenever so list people under interesting question to ask her because you know everybody knows she's progressive as you can be,
Tim Pritlove: intimate a good points set will you know in the end the question is who are going to lobby with your ideas,
Tim Pritlove: yes i'm going against trump than you know what chances you have but once bitten this band administration is formed it's totally open i think she's absolutely right
Tim Pritlove: because you mentioned many people not want healthcare many people i mean things that have been,
Tim Pritlove: totally out of the question in the american discussion about politics like the healthcare not this not the only thing was probably most prominent thing,
Tim Pritlove: five years ten years ago was totally and unheard of the other two can even bring this up at now it seems to be common sense and i think,
Tim Pritlove: same could happen to discussions around gun rides and black lives matter protests everything that,
Tim Pritlove: can be associated with racism in general these things are now on the table somewhere question is going to,
Tim Pritlove: end a new constellation where you can actually discussing things are there just.
Tim Pritlove: Impossible from the start so i think that's a good point to make an doesn't matter much i think,
Tim Pritlove: what is a hope that those people who you know i didn't vote for hillary clinton because they want burn in hell something candidate and then she can't get enough voice
Tim Pritlove: that's not something that's very likely to be repeated this time people understand that i'm just getting this are the worst.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes yes yeah that's true that's true understand that i would like to see that is actually with so i mean,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that's the sixty minutes interview that one of the big questions i needed you know how to progressives feel about this candidate but i think you just said it and it was set it,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: progressives are voting for bibio but their hoping that in the years to come that the doors,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: open snapchat is not a trojan horse right it's the way possibly government to a party even works you have different ideas within a political party so my be more dominant but it doesn't mean they're not others.
Tim Pritlove: Set his his appointment actually have some hope i mean i'm real not not in a position that i don't really know the american public,
Tim Pritlove: american soul,
Tim Pritlove: close sleep in the other way for the world americas been an open book for a long time.
Tim Pritlove: Where has been sharing so much of culture through movies and others exposures on many levels that.
Tim Pritlove: You are so gotta feeling off.
Tim Pritlove: Things the happening and think that are some hole movie on because even if these depressing time what would you get you know many many states have now adopted a policy that allows for same sex marriage.
Tim Pritlove: Is marijuana being sold legally in many states and it's a new business it's not going away so all those.
Tim Pritlove: Things that i usually call progressive stuff and it's just happening even in the world of all time so.
Tim Pritlove: I have that feeling that wants there's a new politics constellation and we're going to talk about the senate a few.
Tim Pritlove: That i think that things could accelerate pretty quickly than in another direction.
Tim Pritlove: That's i find this totally a possible in the that it gets his own dynamic somehow and just because.
Tim Pritlove: Believe in the us.
Tim Pritlove: It's like the world's greatest country indiana affront.
Tim Pritlove: I think most people know this is no longer true but they wanted to be true.
Tim Pritlove: I'm not only by pretending but actually achieving it some getting out of the jacket.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah.
Tim Pritlove: I didn't bit hard working,
Tim Pritlove: society actually it she's this leap forward and then we know the system is is very capable of making changes rapidly
Tim Pritlove: that's that something you've always been once this point has been reached.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes that's a great point i mean it does give me hope i'm not completely hopeless about.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Life after this election it didn't come through i do not think the sky falls no matter what happens this week,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i just refuse i refuse to think that now i did just announce the us but that's just because i want to be realistic but i agree and i really admire what you just said a lot of interesting good things good for people,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: all over the world not just within the us can still come out of the us will.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: But it did you know when you have this leadership this representatives that are so in your face that are so and they have power i mean
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no it doesn't annoying it gets counterproductive it's not a great thing that they would continue to win and dominate discussions nba able to if we move now just briefly to the the streets supreme court for example be able to influence
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: los nachos for the next four years but for yuno
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: decades to come i mean that that is a problem that comes out of things like elections yeah so i need here we are,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: just about to begin november,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: initiate women covering here since we returned with our wonderful news of the world amy coney barrett is,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what today's the day do the official weather she came out of the recommended,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: did i miss the nomination anyways happening.
Tim Pritlove: I think she was nominated yes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah i didn't see any parties are reno no more garden party since the last one.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah so she is now in the senate has voted for which me some public is totally ignored everything i love interesting point made somebody.
Tim Pritlove: This is some how mitch mcconnell the leader of the senate republicans part of senate his lifetime achievement.
Tim Pritlove: Is this is something that you always wanted to know a strong majority in the supreme court and.
Tim Pritlove: Give me the even if he might lose his seed or if the republicans lose the majority or even if they win the majority.
Tim Pritlove: Put now step back and say that i'm done enough and also this is a move.
Tim Pritlove: Find him by fighting the through the summer fields is giving the finger trump which it doesn't really like you know.
Tim Pritlove: I don't think he really likes trump is just like his.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is useful tool.
Tim Pritlove: Useful tool for him and some how it's done now i don't need him anymore.
Tim Pritlove: Doesn't really want them to be two powerful.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Interesting i don't know.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah we don't know.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Take use two used to the the trump way the power so yeah yeah but i mean it would be life accomplishment because,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: three in in four years three supreme court justices that,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: allegedly we're gonna follow your parties policies.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That that's an impact goes well be on getting a president elected or even a senator they do seem to last forever but still,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play really staying there a long time so it that way mitch mcconnell shaped,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: states in the world more than trump self,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: but it doesn't quietly behind the scenes well quietly so it's all happening was really nothing.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Big that quit stop in this time around and when there was something big like in the kavanaugh nomination where the record was crap still still got there so there it is.
Tim Pritlove: No that's amazing.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I love twenty four set it but it isn't accomplishment for a senate majority leader.
Tim Pritlove: Let's have a look apart from the election being about the president of course and this is definitely most important part of which we also talked about chances of the senate flipping to the democrats.
Tim Pritlove: Right now they have flight two or three seats majority.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The republicans at least least two.
Tim Pritlove: When is enough for them but.
Tim Pritlove: Yes you were beautiful that this could change,
Tim Pritlove: i would still be and five thirty eight is currently weather not projecting.
Tim Pritlove: Play r cali favorite democrats to win the senate so it's.
Tim Pritlove: Is possible that's that's busy with the same it's not out of the question it's like this.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I've been avoiding five thirty eight until tonight have been avoiding five thirty eight most of the last four years the way i want the new york times for a while because of the trump election right,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what is impressive to look at it is,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: interesting in anyway there's something open about the fact that like you said there not saying that set it is gonna go democrat their just showing,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there's.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Hey a chance that it could happen in how much of a legend of a chance that even try to project pat easier projections based on polls and india recent shift even over the last two weeks since the beginning of october,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: sorry that's more than two weeks but still october interesting month because even here on this program
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we have been looking at pulls that said well it's too close to call now there more more signs that it could
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: go democrat or at least it the idea of a set it with democratic majority event just one more possible perhaps that was a few weeks ago.
Tim Pritlove: I'd like to ask you some questions because looking at the us as a whole is always complicated and the fifty states or distantly should be fifty two officially fifty,
Tim Pritlove: can you rope it's a very divorce field and you can't ready compare all these days easily i'm so
Tim Pritlove: if we look at the numbers for five thirty eight giving they are listening all the seats that are possibly flipping out democrats or at least one by democrats,
Tim Pritlove: show can i see what the weather was before we could move from.
Tim Pritlove: So well first of all the two seats and i think it's the only yes the only state where the two seats actually up for election.
Tim Pritlove: Why is that because he lives only want somebody who died in georgia.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Set everyday somebody dies in georgia specially these days butt.
Tim Pritlove: No i mean the serenata.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: It's a special election with i don't know why it's often because someone is appointed
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: do something or someone retires
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i do not know why there's a special election we have the same thing couple years ago with arizona
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which one i have to talk about i don't i don't remember why georgia job.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I don't work on it for the next few minutes.
Tim Pritlove: Ok let's talk about the the state.
Tim Pritlove: It's north florida it's one of the southern states that has probably strong slave history anything you can do.
Tim Pritlove: Tell me about the state because not one of those days of here about.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So i mean look georgia gave us jimmy carter.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Democrat a liberal democrat georgia gava the first.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I want to see the first african american center but it may not be correct omaha georgia has atlanta,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: which is significant i mean first of all the large city atlanta also an important economic engine home to company's like,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: do not coca cola amazon.
Tim Pritlove: I was sorry.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Amazon has the two hubbs riverside i don't even remember,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: where they ended up being respond to be new york and then chased out of new york but anyway that is a large black population in atlanta
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end traditionally you know politically
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: active electing officials also social movements civil rights movement st george is always been important but you also get this tradition of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: republican conservative old money,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: if you want to take it further there's of course you mentioned slavery there's racism i'm not saying state of georgia is a racist state or anything like that but it's
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: interesting because you can have these two extremes you can have very progressive democrats from places like nachos atlanta but there's also,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: where the university of georgia is also progressive city and forgetting the name of athens georgia so.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: How were people are more progressive and activate the exist but,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it also has part of the reason why the state can be so back and forth why
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is it from four to eight years maybe not in a senate seat of this year we do have a chance with the us off set it for the sea that also win.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The interstate that has both,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: let's see both extremes or it has both parties have a a source of popularity and politics divided along the starting line so
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: georgia's interesting because it could indigo democrat now is projected also is
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play some paul's ahead by two points ahead by one point it's close but it seems that he could pull it off we also see that candidates are visiting more and more,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: presidential candidates event to try and help the trying,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: galvanize the vote there so it's become an important battleground state is not the only one but it is one of the big i don't know five possible democrat i guess its an upset
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so can be a democratic upset.
Tim Pritlove: I said amazon i meant ups ups,
Tim Pritlove: georgia regarding john awesome wasn't he also making headlines as a candidate two years ago and he lost his,
Tim Pritlove: please forward seafret closely sounds like this song special electronic.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I'm not even gonna friend i don't know us off for this year even.
Tim Pritlove: Yes that name before he was in a race but but lost closely so he's going for a second chance
Tim Pritlove: georgia my play aurora also because it's it's too seats awesome.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah atlanta is a huge economic travel you know the airport is the biggest airport.
Tim Pritlove: Delta airlines.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Gateway yeah it's a gateway to huge section of the world for people gonna coming from somewhere else and that includes good as well and that's why you wanna be there.
Tim Pritlove: Song next up is iowa.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes home of the coconuts.
Tim Pritlove: Yes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Another again corn,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so in iowa i mean again iowa is a state that even though you look at it and we joke i joke about farming,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's also state that surprises you with us politics it's long benefited from this position as the first place where i caucus takes place so as long as this presidential race has been,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we have,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i always first in the whole discussion of who's gonna be the candidate for ider party well in this case for the democrats so iowa
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: can't be lumped in the society with all midwestern states even can't be loved in us
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: always conservative because there's a long tradition of being picky
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: politically becky hill farming of course significant and there's always battle
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: for years two years with congressional seats to try and curry favor with farmer's of lately trump tried to save course that,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: he has really helped farmer's with getting them especially versus china resort then benefitting with other subsidies or i think it's largely been subsidies lately
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: close,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: like europe actually but let's focus on iowa farmers get a lot of government subsidies and even.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: In the program not progressive in the democratic world farmer's also always
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: trying to be charmed entrance democrats trying show that their benefiting farmer's even in the world of green energy there's been an attempt to say iowa and korn could play a key
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: rolling things like biofuels which i know
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there's plenty of people rightfully so that would say biofuels or not green energy but,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's been any interest farmer's in in the midwest in places like iowa to say that it is and if you can do that as democratic party or is it you know if there were any kind of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: big energy pitch then you could potentially get pharmacy support the democratic party so for the democrat party,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so iowa is interesting lee a toss-up politically but key often
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: historically and india.arie sitting in pretty much middle of the road field and air i don't know much about these individuals i know the democrat greenfield is
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: slightly favorite but it's i mean it's a deadlock it's it's practically fifty fifty but there's learning five thirty eight has the meaning.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I guess democrat right now.
Tim Pritlove: Are there also have main leading democrats that's interesting because it's senators susan collins.
Tim Pritlove: Who has been making little bit news in the last year's because it is she is always being considered to be like the one who could,
Tim Pritlove: pause please flipper decision by the senate but neva actually did anything so she was constantly voting with but mitch mcconnell was from promoting,
Tim Pritlove: add indians i wasn't really any help and now it looks as if her citizen danger doom might be punished for this behavior.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: What is may i mean it's east coast in east coast in general in my view is.
Tim Pritlove: More democrats leanin'.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Sure yes.
Tim Pritlove: But why is there publican.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Well so there playing of exceptions but the larger thing is that yesterday the east coast is,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is more democrats in mini things but you can't forget that the east coast also has a tremendous amount of wealth and so there are places
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you can see this if you look at a congressional nap in the house there places where wealthier individuals live,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there you go find plenty of powerful democrats my dear new jersey has plenty of powerful republican sorry republican congress people.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Even the always have a normal story democrat
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: senators maine is a place again politically less predictable say that a massachusetts that's in the in the neighborhood but more progressive but never underestimate
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the power of the east coast republican to hold a seat the way susan collins has there's always the battle also
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: with environmentalism versus people who just wanna have low taxes and have to be able to have a big get away or
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm gonna say getaway house but it also just be residents there other lots of very well feat places in place name
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: where people are gonna vote for the republican indie collins is considered a sort of important figure in the republican party and stargate challenging and now
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: legitimately challenging at least if you follow paul's even if you don't like.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Pause their it's just interesting to see how many pills continue to put gideon ahead by either anything between one and
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: twelve point queen of peace,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: used to be known for pull over ahead by twelve so this could be a major shift because main has been
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: republicans place now it's also something to talk about living in a forest the ending a little bit iceland from from the rest of the world.
Tim Pritlove: No big cities in in maine really are other.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I'm gonna say no i mean their certainly someone out there from main is going what is the sky talking about.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I only stop the maine on the refill airplanes back in the ' ninety s and eighties and i was a kid
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: stop coming from portugal in bangor maine.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That's so you can always project pat just because it is on the coast that it's going to be a progressive place part of what democrat place part of a mix
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: places along the coast often vote democrat can also be a large immigrant population main has had its influxis of immigration but it hasn't been at the level of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: take a pic new york new jersey massachusetts
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: even connecticut which is on the east coast cancer praise you with republican powerhouses like the year the wife of wrestling society x,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: play a lot of people and would like to keep taxes low and would may even out right say we're pro this candidate that candidate employees should be too
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: who is the person who's making your promises and how good those promises sound.
Tim Pritlove: What about this is sounding obits from sing.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah because that would be like winning the presidency for the down class set the puppy ready reliving but if they get the senators,
Tim Pritlove: where i don't even the supreme court alone turn things around.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes i didn't there anything things last show we talk about arizona briefly and it's still happening this still a thing that that is set it in arizona looks like it's gonna go democrat that's pretty significant,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: trump is afraid of that so there's a this is interesting racist i've been hoping that lindsey graham with lose it doesn't look like it's gonna happen but i still considered possible,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: and yet.
Tim Pritlove: Which state.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The south carolina.
Tim Pritlove: South carolina it's alright soya that doesn't look good.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No any think he's in line right so he is the head of the heart of the judiciary committee which saw him often.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Body way you know it to get enough that will be wonderful thing but you could you could see cenario where joe budden win the presidency and the senate states republican,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: we can have the office stereo trump presidency
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the senate stays republican i mean the seneca b democrat
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: some funny little things make it happen and it makes sense in some other way in a world where,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: politics and the penguins information or some marginalizing divided right everybody's in their own little bubbles
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: end the other is wrong and people so passionate about it dead to me it doesn't shock me,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it seems to match what we know is going on with our information with our public life.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I'm sorry i took hope in that i could have.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Set me to do that is interesting too bad so i don't know everything.
Tim Pritlove: Well we don't know i was just a good excuse to put some light on this states and the rose playing in this whole thing so lets.
Tim Pritlove: Put something else now let's just suppose everything is over.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: Of course we know when things are over there no longer over that's just going on and i've been thinking about possible aftermath so,
Tim Pritlove: what is the let's say let's go with what is in awe suggested by all these posts vitamins.
Tim Pritlove: Play focus on the other of the presidential election because it's the most hit the most emotional part of it.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok
Tim Pritlove: So i don't get all those states a projected now it's going to be very very close that says just like one state that finally decided decidete what's going on like in the bush chua.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Hi florida.
Tim Pritlove: Florida or whatever whatever the deciding factor so what happened.
Tim Pritlove: What will the republicans do what day prepared already to do in this case.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What day of setup seemingly based on history and also based on recent words of the president whatever their worth what they could do is in specific states challenge account,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i did see that in in florida they could try for example to stop the count,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: they could try to reduce account again it depends on what state,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what underworld excuse but we've seen historically attempt to
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: manage especially voted haven't been counted yet that maybe coming from for example military,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: this year especially is a big overseas ballet kind of year,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: even within the state there are states where you for a million dollar to be accepted it has to be post marked up until and including election day,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: no that means it may not arrive you know a day,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: remove in two days if things are really jamz so there could be an attempt to stop this from being counted we've seen some rulings already out of wisconsin.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Saying for example first date to really say that you can't trying to say no counting of ballots the day after the election,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: not every state is gonna say that i don't know if that decision for wisconsin is gonna hold,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that's what i said earlier this week so there gonna be attempt to ider stop the process i don't know if they can,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: attempted recount i know that was said in two thousand remember so the attack will be focused on.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: The actual balance are they can be thrown out for any reason i don't know where we are anymore with this technology but twenty years ago
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that was the time of hanging chads which meant someone they have sheets where you had to poke the paper and they didn't poke the paper completely through so it was half kind of tornado and half not and they were trying to get these boots thrown out.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Because it didn't favor the republican candidate now what helps there is
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is the state of state government is it run by over publican or not
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that has an influence who you know who is the secretary of state so all these little factors could play a role in how much can the republican party do if they don't like the outcome and i guess how much the democratic party can do they dont like the outcome
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: both parties could,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i feel as though the republicans are more known for doing this especially cause trump has been foreshadowing this so much i saying that dirty mailman isn't reliable
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: setting it up already.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So will see a bunch of court cases maybe in multiple states or could just be in one state if that becomes the focus cuz you just said imaginary awards one state that makes a difference there gonna dedicate all there resources legally
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: two finding a way to shake-up account to other throughout probably throughout vote,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: if it favors them and florida is there state republican wise so it could be repeat.
Tim Pritlove: What the democrats just accept this.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I mean you could you like they did last time i think they would.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Democratic operative could say no way we're gonna fight.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: So i think i would accept it i think that there's i know what it is another reason the violation,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: documented throwing vote in hot in the garbage can you know how.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: What seems to matter especially in the media and what you know the population demands is what can you see and i remember two thousand and it was hard to really feel,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: violation in taking place me some people holding a piece of paper and try to figure out a chad was it was some of the most boring journalism ever people rolling papers and.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: If thats not again i have my dubstep the democrats would have enough energy resources.
Tim Pritlove: So i mean the republicans happy ramping up the series for all possible outcomes in everybody knows the just going to go after.
Tim Pritlove: Everything the can get the tee stuck into democrats not so much.
Tim Pritlove: I think that a lot of things and some in particular on your probably already know what i'm trying to fox on now.
Tim Pritlove: Is the machinery that is used for voting.
Tim Pritlove: Not every state is doing it oven no real numbers but the a lot of states using voting computers.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah yeah.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah reference something about you security in the last year i guess especially when it comes to russian groups invading computers to a group the content and you know.
Tim Pritlove: Give me bitcoin.
Tim Pritlove: Can do this with any operational computer that's run by a professional computer department.
Tim Pritlove: I can't do this with all star computers that are you know.
Tim Pritlove: God from the bar weather have been standing for a last two years and doing nothing and nobody was actually watching them.
Tim Pritlove: I have my doubts i really really annoyed by the thought that the you know something vote might be desired by the outkast love actually presented you to you by old computers.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Machines not even computers things with yeah.
Tim Pritlove: Will there are all computers in i wouldn't cause machines.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I want thinking of levert back in the day.
Tim Pritlove: Are these still in operation.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Idle the country for almost twenty years old i don't know alaska.
Tim Pritlove: I don't think that i think this this chads this i don't know.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That was the year they went out.
Tim Pritlove: Yes i meant but the replacement with like the new stuff the hotness you know computers.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Maybe.
Tim Pritlove: Oh my god.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That's actually something that social media could help with at least text stock of and i've never seen if everybody would just say what kind of device or thing did you vote on today i would like to see them.
Tim Pritlove: Nobody is talking about this nobody is preparing for this.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No no their prepare for civil war and legal arguments but their not preparing for but what are you.
Tim Pritlove: Should be in addition review friends of this attack,
Tim Pritlove: level because i mean it's keep repeating myself but it's it's a basic sing first of all.
Tim Pritlove: You can't verify what is going on inside of this computer it's all software.
Tim Pritlove: Can you can't watch the computer doing his decisions let's the first point so from my point of view these things shouldn't even be there.
Tim Pritlove: No that not solving any problems but their opening up barney full step off new problems what you haven't even thought about,
Tim Pritlove: that's that's a first general problem so even if they these are like the most well-designed,
Tim Pritlove: machine with opensource system that have been verified by kinds of people in groups and you know everything is documentary even then,
Tim Pritlove: you can't.
Tim Pritlove: The dumb stuff you don't know what's installed on them wednesday running but these machines usually very dumb.
Tim Pritlove: Cheap pc with no security functionality and,
Tim Pritlove: this machine not in use on a daily basis these machines are actually starred in a pound and then road out two days before nobody knows was on this machine.
Tim Pritlove: I was republicans if i want to stephen election i would even.
Tim Pritlove: Do any heads on tv is expensive in over my head for the money spent on a few as,
Tim Pritlove: you can buy people and you don't need somebody.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't know i don't know that one yeah i would agree that has not been much investigation about this in the last special last year,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: are even the last four years at least i haven't seen it maybe now that we mentioned it will come out someone this working on this very topic and has been for sometime i be curious to hear you.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah this machine has been constantly being hacked on every akon you know every year and usually takes them like twenty seconds are in the damn so this is proving grounds and so.
Tim Pritlove: The problems problem another problem.
Tim Pritlove: That's something fine particularly problematic is the refuse back to what what i said positively about
Tim Pritlove: american society the general thing that everything is possible once you know get together and then they they do crazy stuff and then space x happens and tesla and what not
Tim Pritlove: but on the other hand.
Tim Pritlove: Also keep them looking away from severe problems some help because they are still deluded by the song that they can solve everything but also saying that they can solve this.
Tim Pritlove: Crisis which i would college prices does voting crisis by having a chosen computing machinery to collect for.
Tim Pritlove: So general i don't really see that many people actually ignored this is a problem but that's just me.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: No it's it's cuz it's too complicated the country is it bit answer this week but they are still levert machines or some jazz that i recall from my childhood i better still out there
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: including on the east coast no money was invested so that also bring up some of the very computers you're talking about but his houses some old fashioned crap out there too,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: call such a hodgepodge because the country so big and so little money is spent on the infrastructure of democracy in the country so it's it is.
Tim Pritlove: I'm not sure that they spent tons of money on on this computer but you don't need them all you need to do you need to spend money on paypal and pens.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Well look separate from what you just broke up which is huge i think we now live in arrowhead
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the paper and pen thing is
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: also going to be abused or can be abused and it's own how i know you can witness that right unlike what you said about what happens inside of a computer during the transfering of data i think i
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: even a timer you can witness somebody interfering with pen and paper i think we have now arrived a place where that can be some help.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Push out of the instead of public sphere discredited i been watching some stories out of california that i still don't understand about fake boxes that were set up for people to put in their mail in ballots.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah that's sorry didn't get very big outside of california it i don't understand why that doesn't stop everything or nothing call something big.
Tim Pritlove: I don't understand this two and that's it immediate problem but it gets notice.
Tim Pritlove: Did it gets notes and anderson paak sibyl to do large-scale voter fraud based on pepper balance because i need many many many people to corporate.
Tim Pritlove: Can you have so many ways of actually insuring the correct vote you just have to send transit people actually in august,
Tim Pritlove: riding down to tell you in posting it in an incomparable and india dumb that's how you can secure paper bag based voting system but you have computers not only can't you,
Tim Pritlove: do this you can't write down what computer is counting because i can see it.
Tim Pritlove: What is also you only need one person who knows the system and has access to it.
Tim Pritlove: I spend money on this person and you're dumb you know you can change the results in the way that you know doesn't really make them.
Tim Pritlove: No it doesn't stick out we've been talking about the senators within talking about results that like this like.
Tim Pritlove: Zero dot three percent more projected for one candidate if you just flip this in a computer nobody will take notice.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Right right right yeah.
Tim Pritlove: Enough computer talk let's get on a positive note and say by wings.
Tim Pritlove: Maybe even the senate.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Is fifty fifty great because.
Tim Pritlove: Right vice president is it okay fifty fifty forgot about this so then what happens how are we going this.
Tim Pritlove: Update landscapes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah i know
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: take a pic i mean what kind of a vitamin administration do you get what kind of policies do you get what are the priorities
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think about the environment for example we know there's a city of returning to a lot of international agreements including the paris climate accord so we might see that the first few years but.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: There challenges that are out there for example obamacare in the supreme court that i think nobody wins this election,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: will see what the supremes say so yeah i
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: yes that's the next big question that nobody wants to think about because the first battle is so big but it's coming which is,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: what is the the other vitamin d ministrations of david guetta senate they can work with that we just said would exist so now that means you can have it all the laws on your side potentially policies opportunity
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: that's not
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so many presidents get but i don't know i don't know you know a lot of talk of including republicans the bidding ministrations now their tradition,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: from both parties before trump their would always be one kind of carryover,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: on the administration from the other party bizness talking about doing that and possibly more he's got these republicans like kpcc who wants ran against trump he's got wrong who's a sort of
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: definitely been anti trump at different times in his career last few years.
Tim Pritlove: How many characters delicious spain.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah is also part of ider trying to show because i think that is gonna be interesting this idea trying to
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: bring hands together origin to put it better to bring people together regardless of party i mean i think i will try that,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't know if the population of the country cares,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: even retaliated but yeah we're gonna see some republicans being involved at least i know the handler gonna be held out if if they take them so we're gonna see yeah very,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: interesting by del amitri something it will happen if they get the senate if the democrats get the senate then we're gonna see somebody's committees with some new
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: old new faces for example the budget committee which has say over the budget of the federal government that could be head by bernie sanders,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: if the democrats,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: get the senate yes that's interesting i mean he's part of a committee but still to be head of the committee significant i think,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: there's talking about elizabeth warren and his an argument really possibly getting treasury,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: course the criticism this is too radical she's too not my words extreme.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I still think it's just fast living that could happen.
Tim Pritlove: Should be more like conservative social democratic germany.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Remind ask angela merkel if she wants to be in the administration.
Tim Pritlove: Yes.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: She's a greeting for americans.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Such a hippy hippy lady from germany's coming over she's retiring,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: so yeah one of the questions you know what is the administration pursuit first and also who who's gonna be on the team address,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: you know what's happened the last few years
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: the tradition trumpets taken away far but obama the two of us executive orders you can't go through set you don't feel like it you're not time even if you do have a democratic senator this so many executive orders to be,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm done that's gonna be house work so will be a painful time to be an internet the white house when biden wins so much work.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: What is bad wings trump stays president until end of january.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes have january yet.
Tim Pritlove: Have generate got around two months to seventy s.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: You can say to terrapin white house and take out all the jay and the beast out of the keyboards.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah definitely going for the silver but.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: He likes gold.
Tim Pritlove: Right.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah but he's going to report all the gold from the white house before i leave but what potential i mean he has this party in power.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Ok right so i mean i think you're alright pardon a couple of his former.
Tim Pritlove: Cronies pause the problem i don't know going to be in trouble.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yes yes yes yes you're thinking what is before she does leave.
Tim Pritlove: Yes i mean he's probably going to try to pardon him self some out.
Tim Pritlove: Protected children from adam.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I listen
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i would be impressed and i can still be impressed by the united states but all i ever see when a president who is done some hannah stuff leaves office is they never get prosecuted and i bet trump is an any different,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i did in a couple of years seen it all only quirky of citizen twitter and it seems impossible now
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i've seen this tradition in the united states if he goes out people be so happy from to be out and then a few years kina
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: hollered him is an expresidents what did you do in the meantime that's your question i don't think there's much more for him to do he's gonna make a lot of noise of course and he's gonna set up his next career,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i there is the ultimate opposition figure who i guess could run again when they,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: he's gonna do his other favorite thing which is get back into tv or if it's not tv it's gonna be some kind of twitter and social media that he likes but he wants to stay in the public eye and based on the popularity
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i think you can you know what those kind of numbers of supporters you could definitely have a channel with plenty of subscribers.
Tim Pritlove: I don't think it twitter account will last long after is no longer president is losing every reason to to amazon account run.
Tim Pritlove: What is the weather will close this must close account because it's just reasons live armin.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: People.
Tim Pritlove: Yeah but he has violated every ruel on twitter the only reason this still alive or is this account still alive that he is we how did twitter put it something like.
Tim Pritlove: Historical relevance or whatever history because just because somebody needs to stay online but once losers drop.
Tim Pritlove: I'm pretty sure it's going to lose this twitter account this twitter account must go.
Tim Pritlove: Put this this twitter account must go.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: That's fine but i don't think that he goes away in the public eye which is unfortunate cuz.
Tim Pritlove: Prosecuted for other shit.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Don't do it.
Tim Pritlove: What is there this washington post article on the other money got from.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: It's amazing it's an amazing article it some of the best investigative journalism i've seen you sing the simple practice that i would teach if i were teaching journalism right now,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: get the documents show the documents do the math and the amount of money that the us government
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: because of the white house spends on trump properties on trump things
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: it's crazy they always have the events in the overcharge no interns and low level staff staying in the the luxury suites that cost three thousand and i mean it's it's hannah hannah stuff,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: turn off the prosecuting i'm saying another not gonna prosecuted,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: never have what you know george bush destroya country killed people with bomb coming out of the air and from the ground he paints portrait and people think he's kind of sweet.
Tim Pritlove: Welcome trump is.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I don't know america empress me i'm telling you america i know.
Tim Pritlove: No impress me.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I know never goes after their former asshole.
Tim Pritlove: Ok
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I don't know where we're also i'll go back on i said where an era of wild i've never seen that before so,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: this could be something wild never seen before could be yeah i mean he has really burning bridges and away no one ever has who's gonna help i don't know.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Decides to have his own little television channel with his people he's gonna stay relevant is gonna be like a sort of,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: alex jones until you now and then do they might try to ban him but he was this alex jones was president i don't know conspiracy channel hosted by donald trump.
Tim Pritlove: Ok i would pay the price.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah understand agree it's the best case scenario or at least it's better than him remaining president.
Tim Pritlove: Alright so how are you going to watch is it going to take a sleep pill and then wake up today's later and see what happened going through the,
Tim Pritlove: the thriller the child of of following this is boring electric light and having numbers fire around you left right.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I have a pretty stripped girlfriend when it comes to sleeping time so no matter who is running for president there will be time the head.
Tim Pritlove: Set yo just going to wake up and see.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: I wake up early i will wake up early.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Because because i love you just you know that i can't sleep but then all of a sudden a wake up thinking about this today so i'll be watching by,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i don't know sometimes i prefer not to look in until it's all counted but i'll be looking in the morning for sure i don't know where i'll be looking,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: go old school i just watched the bbc a hundred because of you watch the washington post it's gonna be a constant this this now this we know this that
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: is that maybe podcasts because they can't come out as fast,
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: i'm not understanding please let my life goes on.
Tim Pritlove: Ok so and so we should probably do the news show on on that day and and and it's too come down and pretenders not going to be as bad as it looks or celebrate.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Listen wait whatever happens news of the world will be there.
Tim Pritlove: Nothing.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: This is great seeing where i'm what is deep impact when was terrible meteor hits the earth films and morgan freeman is president and adam lambert anything about that film accept it goes live will go on.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: We will persevere time to go back to deepend pact and remember the words of morgan freeman president morgan freeman.
Tim Pritlove: Alright.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah.
Tim Pritlove: Go on so thanks mac i think this was a very good discussion and hopefully everything will be ok good.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Yeah i'm sure people you must have your own few points on these things and vitamins do what you always do live in the comments put somewhere we can see we appreciate power thanks for listening.
Tim Pritlove: Yes thanks for listening goodbye.
Mark Fonseca Rendeiro: Election day.